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Old 12-12-2018, 10:33 AM   #4241
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they're similar, but different

I think a big part of Drysaddle's is the whole 'the goalie had time to reset' argument. He bumped him, moved on, call it 1-2s, and then the puck is in.


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From the gif they both look like they should have been disallowed.

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Old 12-12-2018, 10:34 AM   #4242
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The sky is blue, water’s wet, Oiler fans are delusional, Peluso was using Koskinens leg as a trampoline and the sun is hot.

One of these things is not a fact
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Sorry, when or where did you see this? Please provide me with video/picture proof. I haven't seen Peluso standing on anybody's leg.
4 seconds in on the clip I posted. Pelusos left skate is on top of Koskinen. It’s way more obvious it the front video. He steps down on it then lifts back up
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The selective vision part was quoting a guy who said Peluso didn’t touch the goalie and the Draisaitl made “blatant contact” like he ran him over.

Peluso was standing on his freaking leg. 100% should be disallowed. Even if the teams were switched.

Draisaitl’s is 50/50 don’t know what the nhl is going to say on a close one like that. No consistency
First of all Peluso made minimal if any contact, it was his position that was considered interference with goalies ability to make save.

Draisatl made contact with goalies skate and glove as he skated through the crease, interfering with goalies ability to make save.

And what on earth are you seriously watching? "Standing on his leg"

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4 seconds in on the clip I posted. Pelusos left skate is on top of Koskinen. It’s way more obvious it the front video. He steps down on it then lifts back up
I still don't see it. Do you have a link to a video showing another angle.
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Can you tell me what time in the video (ie 0:22) Peluso stands on Koskinens leg? Can't see it.
0:04 sec.

You can see it more clearly @ 04:36 of this video...

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Old 12-12-2018, 10:40 AM   #4247
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First of all Peluso made minimal if any contact, it was his position that was considered interference with goalies ability to make save.

Draisatl made contact with goalies skate and glove as he skated through the crease, interfering with goalies ability to make save.

And what on earth are you seriously watching? "Standing on his leg"

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I understand the rules just fine thank you. The refs agree with me as well

He didn’t plow the goalie over. Wtf is your problem. He bumped his glove and the refs deemed it didn’t interfere with his ability to make a save.

Is it fair to say if I jump on the goalies leg when he’s trying to make a save it’s a good goal. Flame fan logic.
I was exaggerating a bit so an oiler fan like yourself could maybe understand
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He lifts his leg to let the puck in, Koskinen extends his and their skates lightly touch.

Or in Stang’s universe Peluso tried to amputee Koskinens leg at the knee but was unsuccessful somehow
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First of all Peluso made minimal if any contact, it was his position that was considered interference with goalies ability to make save.

Draisatl made contact with goalies skate and glove as he skated through the crease, interfering with goalies ability to make save...
BOTH players make obvious contact with the goalies, and it is difficult to make clear judgments about the allowability of one goal over the other.

You should feel bad about making me point this out in the "Edmonton is no good" thread.
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0:04 sec.

You can see it more clearly @ 04:36 of this video...

Comes down on koskinens skate after puck is in the net. Irrelevant.
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0:04 sec.

You can see it more clearly @ 04:36 of this video...

It looks to me like the puck was passed them/in the process of passing them when Peluso's skate came down on Koskinen's for that fraction of a second. In my opinion, at that point in time it wouldn't have impeded Koskinen's chances of stopping the puck.
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Different refs, whatever. This was challenged and went to Toronto, that’s where the true consistency is needed when they can look at it over and over from multiple angles
On a coach's challenge, the decision is made by the refs in the building. The Situation Room only provides them with the available replays.

The Situation Room makes the decision on whether or not the puck fully and legally crossed the goal line, including rulings on kicked-in goals and high stick goals. Once it goes to a challenge, it becomes the decision of the officials at the game. This is why you sometimes see two different reviews on the same goal.

They've talked about changing it so that all reviews are done out of Toronto, but they haven't had agreement on that yet.
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He lifts his leg to let the puck in, Koskinen extends his and their skates lightly touch.

Or in Stang’s universe Peluso tried to amputee Koskinens leg at the knee but was unsuccessful somehow
Their skates "lightly touch"?

Peluso's foot plants on top of Koskinen's skate. It is ridiculous to think you can gauge the pressure applied from these video clips, but even more so for some of you to continue to insist that contact by Draisaitl was patently obvious while Peluso's was barely noticeable.
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BOTH players make obvious contact with the goalies, and it is difficult to make clear judgments about the allowability of one goal over the other.

You should feel bad about making me point this out in the "Edmonton is no good" thread.
Im alright with Flames goal disallowed. I was when it happened.

I posted about this because just 2 days later the Oilers get away with basically the same goal. And ref even says "there was no goalie interference" when obviously there was.

The inconsistency of this league is incredible
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Somewhat. Maybe but here’s the puck going into the net.


One is definitely different.
I wouldn't say the time between the two chosen frames you picked is such that the call would be different.

Trust me I don't know either. I guess wrong every time. But they were so close to the same play it was ironic within 48 hours.
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Oh damn! Peluso had his skate in the air, which actually allowed Koskinen to get his pad over. Yeah sure, their blades touch but that's after it's in. I thought Peluso's left skate was planted the all the while, which would've impeded Koskinen's pad but that wasn't the case.

That actually looks more favorable for Calgary on that angle, if anything.

Can be argued for or against, but that's as much a goal as the Edmonton one.
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Their skates "lightly touch"?

Peluso's foot plants on top of Koskinen's skate. It is ridiculous to think you can gauge the pressure applied from these video clips, but even more so for some of you to continue to insist that contact by Draisaitl was patently obvious while Peluso's was barely noticeable.
At the time peluso made contact with koskinens skate, he could have amputated his foot and it would still count because the puck was already in the net. This part of the argument is ridiculous.
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Comes down on koskinens skate after puck is in the net. Irrelevant.
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It looks to me like the puck was passed them/in the process of passing them when Peluso's skate came down on Koskinen's for that fraction of a second. In my opinion, at that point in time it wouldn't have impeded Koskinen's chances of stopping the puck.
That's true. But prior to that and at the point that Koskinen extends his glove to make the save Peluso's right leg impedes him from doing so.
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Gotta love how Oilers fans bend the rules in their own minds for justifications. David Staples is a perfect representation of Oilers fans and their logic.
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