2023 NFL Season Thread

[Johnny Makarov]

Yay. No more monkey dancing on the sidelines!

[ResAlien]

Bears kept Eberflus but fired every member of that inept offensive staff. The Fields decision will look over everything until that first pick is made

[DoubleK]

Wowza. I never thought they'd fire Pete.

[devo22]

not exactly surprising after his alleged bust-up with Daboll, but the Giants are moving on from Wink Martindale.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by devo22

not exactly surprising after his alleged bust-up with Daboll, but the Giants are moving on from Wink Martindale.

What’s important with that is it was mutual not him quitting so he can sign with any team. Eagles should be at his house with bags of money before supper time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pete's time was up.

Wonder when we hear about Bill and the Pats.

League needs some new blood, but some of the new blood suck so much thats why coaches get recycled. Staley touted a defensive genius after 1 season and looks like complete crap as a head coach.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

What’s important with that is it was mutual not him quitting so he can sign with any team. Eagles should be at his house with bags of money before supper time.

If Jim Harbaugh ends up coming back to the NFL as a head coach I would be shocked if Martindale doesn't end up with him.

Martindale worked for Harbaugh's dad, and of course brother in Baltimore. Probably has a close and strong relationship with the family still.

[Nsd1]

It will be hilarious when Belichick goes to the Seahawks and makes Drew Lock QB1

[Sylvanfan]

I see that the kitchen got a bit too hot for Aaron Rogers and no more Aaron Rogers Tuesday gor this year at least. If he would come on and just talk Football, he's got some unique perspectives on the game. But he keeps talking and the more he talks...the more he does to make himself look really off kilter.

[browna]

Certainly caught me off guard.

He's still got the energy, not one of those guys who isn't able to adapt or changes and has shown that. Whole team concept has been competing at each position and a strength has been coaching up lower draft picks into solid players...the whole defense basically in the 2 Superbowl years, except for a few.

Also has been tied at the hip (hired within a day of each other) with John Schneider and those two built up the roster (and a Russ Wilson still on a rookie deal) to 2 SB's in 5 years of arriving. Ruthless, cutting players before their expiry date.

I don't think he's lost the room or anything like you'd think, given the dynamic environment he's created. Geno Smith is a great current example of that, the confidence the Carroll gave him, Smith has credited Carroll for his career resurgence; again, giving the right guys the right opportunity.

Defense hasn't been great, and they haven't had a good DC since Quinn left, everyone else has been subpar or a disaster, evidenced by anyone looking to pad resume as a defensive person and move.on, has done nothing. Ask the Eagles. Clint Hurtt hasn't been great and 27th and 28th on the league in defense isn't going to cut it.

Like when they moved off from Mora after one year, and next day announced PC and JS, something likely has come up that the Seahawks would move quick on for such a shock announcemnt.
Vrabel? Quinn was a deer in headlights in ATL as HC, but maybe ready now? I can't see them going for a first time HC. Can't see Harbaugh either.

Anyways, Carroll brought this team out of the toilet to what should've been b2b SB's, and was competitive most every year, even without the talent. He put up and made it work with Wilson when he turned divw, made tough calls on letting players go earlier than most teams. Will certainly be different not seeing TV cameras focus on him the sidelines and his demonstrative personality.

[Senator Clay Davis]

As expected...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1745416259242434885

[Erick Estrada]

I wonder how much the Vrabel firing played into that. Seems like a no-brainer that he's the replacement. Belichick will go down as one of the great defensive masterminds but as a GM he didn't have a good feel for offensive skill as almost all the offensive players he drafted were no good and it seems he was too locked into what they had been doing on offense decades ago with Weis and McDaniels that he didn't trust bringing in outsiders to run their offense and tried to get his guys like Judge, Patricia, and O'Brien to come in and run that same offense and the truth is that it's just not a great offense (Raiders fans know this well) in today's NFL and almost all of their offensive success on offense was due to Brady. At 72 years it's a stretch to think he could ever adapt to a more modern offense so this is the right decision. Pretty crazy run of coach firings, separations, retirements (Saban) the past few days.

[Cheese]

Mayo seems to be one of the top candidates to fill the HC role.

Also loved this..

There is a symmetry and a similarity in the departures of two football legends -- men that are widely considered the greatest coach in professional history and the greatest coach in college football history. Belichick helped lead the Patriots to nine Super Bowl appearances and six Super Bowl titles; Saban led Alabama to nine SEC titles and six national championships.

Additionally, Saban succeeded Pete Carroll as the Ohio State secondary coach in 1980; when Belichick was head coach in Cleveland, he worked with Saban from 1991 to 1994; and Belichick replaced Carroll as the Patriots head coach in 2000 before all three vacated their long-standing jobs this week in a 24-hour period.

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/bill-belichic...s-say-19.71451

[Erick Estrada]

The problem with Mayo is that he was being groomed by Bill much like McDaniels was and the Patriots way has not worked for anyone not named Bill Belichick. Vrabel has had success coaching without being groomed by Belichick or trying to emulate him and there are no doubts that he can come in and lead a locker room.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The problem with Mayo is that he was being groomed by Bill much like McDaniels was and the Patriots way has not worked for anyone not named Bill Belichick. Vrabel has had success coaching without being groomed by Belichick or trying to emulate him and there are no doubts that he can come in and lead a locker room.

True...but this is the way, the Patriots Way!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cheese

True...but this is the way, the Patriots Way!

I will say Mayo being a former player may have a leg up on the other guys. I do think that for some coaches the experience of being a former player matters as AP went 5-4 with very pedestrian QB play despite no head coaching experience because he has natural leadership qualities and the players believed in him. Clearly Mayo was a leader as a player so that matters and knows locker room dynamics enough to know how to get players to buy-in as McDaniels, Patricia, Mangini, etc simply weren't respected by players as a head coach.

I have to imagine if Belichick resurfaces somewhere that McDaniels follows him.

[Sylvanfan]

There's also rumblings that Andy Reid might step away at the end of this season too. If that plus Tomlin were to also step away. The NFL coaching carousel makes College take the back seat.

Quite a bit of talk about Bellichick to the Chargers. Will be interesting to see if it's him, Harbaugh, or someone else who takes that job.

[SuperMatt18]

I think if the Chiefs won again then Reid could step away...go out on winning back to back.

If they fizzle out I wonder if he would come back for one more go to try to win another one.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

There's also rumblings that Andy Reid might step away at the end of this season too. If that plus Tomlin were to also step away. The NFL coaching carousel makes College take the back seat.

Quite a bit of talk about Bellichick to the Chargers. Will be interesting to see if it's him, Harbaugh, or someone else who takes that job.

Chargers aren't the great situation many think. Yes they have a very good QB but their salary cap situation is a big mess. Also I'm not sure Belichick and Spanos are a good fit.

[Senator Clay Davis]

But as we all know what is harder to manage, the cap or not having a QB? Yes, an ideal situation is one where both are good, but you can have an elite cap situation that leaves you no chance at succeeding if you are running replacement level QBs out there. Chargers job is the only one open with a proven QB, the rest are on the hopes and dreams situation. Feels like the Chargers job has to be filled before the other dominoes fall, and the Harbaugh situation which is of course tied to the Chargers as well.