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Old 06-20-2009, 01:01 AM   #401
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This shows a movie of a plane striking TWTC in early 2001 called the lone gunman.



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Old 06-20-2009, 01:24 AM   #402
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Interesting? So this was their plan... We will bring down the two towers, kill thousands of civilians and cause untold pain and suffering, but before we do, we will put this onto a second rate TV show, an X-Files spinoff. It is only interesting if you are unable to find any coincidence in anything in life.

But what is interesting, is that picture of the cookie monster eating the world trade center.... I thought it was terrorists, someone should tell Obama that we are going after the wrong guys.... we should be looking for a 800 foot tall blue bear thing that loves cookies. I bet it was the CIA!

Interesting....
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Interesting? So this was their plan... We will bring down the two towers, kill thousands of civilians and cause untold pain and suffering, but before we do, we will put this onto a second rate TV show, an X-Files spinoff. It is only interesting if you are unable to find any coincidence in anything in life.

But what is interesting, is that picture of the cookie monster eating the world trade center.... I thought it was terrorists, someone should tell Obama that we are going after the wrong guys.... we should be looking for a 800 foot tall blue bear thing that loves cookies. I bet it was the CIA!

Interesting....
Yeah those videos are definately creepy..........I haven't read anything on the Illuminati yet.....
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:47 AM   #404
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Dont drag me into your den of lies...I have a perfectly valid 9/11 alibi...I was watching it on TV....

I think someone has to look up the definition of 'deception' in the dictionary...and then quite possibly be beaten with that tome of pure knowledge.

Its for the greater good.
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I just found this thread for some odd reason, the two towers stuff would make a good movie. The RFID chips, as photon said - they are low power and pretty much useless other then unlocking your car doors and storing information. One of the biggest uses in the future for RFID chips is to store important medical info so in case of a medical emergency, someone can just pull their file. Think of your bluetooth, how well does it work 100 ft from its device? Unless the government has a mesh of networks in all electronic appliances, trying to track someone via RFID is useless.

The stuff about RFID's in hospitals, I believe I heard about that and its just their beds and stuff, not actually their bodies. By RFID'ing where they are, its easier for the doctors to pull up the medical info quick and easy.
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Old 06-20-2009, 07:59 AM   #406
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HAHA........I don't take it THAT seriously. Besides, I'm gonna try and rip the interview off somewhere first.

And people have chipped their babies. Hell it was on CNN.
Are you going to provide us with the link or not? You weren't just making this up were you?
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:36 AM   #407
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Alright, trying to figure out your sig.. it's not from the OT is it?

When I google it CP is the first hit lol... I also learned that to select it all I have to select right to left, that's kind of cool.
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Ah ok, I don't know hebrew so I was having quite a bit of difficulty translating, I had the gist of it and thought it was by someone named Simon, but I had mistranslated "master" in the middle as "Rabbi" so it was coming out as someone being used by the rabbi lol..

Translation is hard when you don't know a language.
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Disturbing concepts.

Hilarious. The voice that you hear at the beginning belongs to Bill Schnoebelen. He is a Christian evangelist and self-proclaimed "occult expert" who claims to have once been a Satanic High Priest, a high ranking Free Mason, a Witch, and a Vampire.
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Hilarious. The voice that you hear at the beginning belongs to Bill Schnoebelen. He is a Christian evangelist and self-proclaimed "occult expert" who claims to have once been a Satanic High Priest, a high ranking Free Mason, a Witch, and a Vampire.
I would expect a former vampire to be pretty smart.
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Tower: That first video link was hysterically funny. It very much reminded me of being in a Sunday evening service in my home church as a kid in the mid-eighties. In addition to the Bille Schoebelen citation at the beginning, I also took note of the following:

• 06:00 mark: William Guy Carr's book entitled Pawns in the Game (3rd Edn.) was published in 1958 by the Federation of Christian Laymen, and can be read in its entirety here. In the Preface the publishers make the following declaration:
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"The lnternational Communists, and the International Capitalists, (both of whom have totalitarian ambitions) have temporarily joined hands to defeat Christian-democracy. The cover design shows that all moves made by the International Conspirators are directed by Satan and while the situation is decidedly serious it is definitely not hopeless. The solution is to end the game the International Conspirators have been playing right now before one or another totalitarian-minded group impose their ideas on the rest of mankind. The story is sensational and shocking, but it is educational because it, is the TRUTH."
• 06:11: The word "Illuminati" is not a derivitive of "Lucifer". It is actually from the Latin root "lumino" meaning to give light or reveal; to enlighten. Lucifer is actually Latin meaning "Morning Star", and is an image derived from the biblical Book of Isaiah 14:3–20. Interstingly—as is often the case in Old Testament prophecy—the actual passage has NOTHING to do with satanic beings or the Devil. It was originally uttered in reaction to the very real-life Assyrian campaign under Sennacherib of Assyria to conquer the known world. As part of the ancient program of Scripture interpretation, it was commonly assumed that sacred texts were cryptic and mysterious, and when they said one thing actually meant something quite different. Thus was borne from a Caananite myth the story of "Lucifer", the fallen angel who staged a heavenly coup and lost.

• 08:16: Please note that there is no "Book of Revelations". The biblical Book of Revelation is also known as the Revelation of St. John the Apostle, translated from the Greek Αποκαλυψις Ιωαννου, literally, the "Apocalypse of John". It should be noted that Revelation is not in any way a unique piece of literature, and has its roots in centuries of Jewish and ancient Near Eastern apocalyptic literature.

I have spent years studying apocalyptic writings, which were never written for the purpose of predicting the future, despite that they predominantly all feature angelic and otherworldly beings who deliver messages to obedient scribes. An apocalypse was written as an "ex eventu prophecy": A series of visions and oracles ascribed pseudonymously to a famous past prophet as a "future prediction," which was in reality only coded language for a religious community's present circumstances. They functioned as sociological, institutional and religious critiques. Some of the more famous pre-Christian apocalypses are the biblical Book of Daniel (c. 170–160 B.C.E.), 1 Enoch (c. 240–170 B.C.E.), the Sybilline Oracles (c. 200–100 B.C.E.), and 2 Baruch (c. 70–100 C.E.). There is also some very interesting apocalyptic literature in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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I would expect a former vampire to be pretty smart.
One would think. For fun, do a youtube search on this guy. I stumbled upon him whilst doing some research about Satanic Ritual Abuse. If you are ever so inclined and have the time, this is a fascinating study of the causes and effects of mass paranoia when it is combined with religious fervour. What is most intriguing is that the SRA scare was an American phenomenon, and it happened quite recently. Check out some of the claims of Victoria, BC psychiatrist Lawrence Pazder, Lauren Stratford, Rebecca Brown, M.D., and Mike Warnke.
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Hilarious. The voice that you hear at the beginning belongs to Bill Schnoebelen. He is a Christian evangelist and self-proclaimed "occult expert" who claims to have once been a Satanic High Priest, a high ranking Free Mason, a Witch, and a Vampire.
This is just a further belief structure that some people seem to have from the other recent posts from me. Like lizard people or demons possessing leaders of the world. It's not about being funny. I think it takes this whole conspiracy stuff to a new level (obviously). Higher Free Masons believe we are worshiping the wrong god (if we are worshiping The Christ.) I'm not a freemason so I don't know the validity of this statement.

Me - I got too scared watching camp horror or 6th sense... So ya, this was disturbing.

Now I can see your side of this being funny. Bill has a few claims that are Hollywood in it's presentment. Me, I'd like to sit and talk with these people. Get a bit of understanding of where they are coming from.

However, who are we to argue. Do we know what exist in the other dimensions according to the super string theory? Perhaps Demonsions!!!

Interesting Fiction.
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...Now I can see your side of this being funny. Bill has a few claims that are Hollywood in it's presentment. Me, I'd like to sit and talk with these people. Get a bit of understanding of where they are coming from...
See, it's different for me. I grew up around people like Schnoebelen. In my church growing up we were always entertaining these traveling evangelists, apologists and cult "experts" who all had grande and highly disturbing tales of a sinister underworld with designs on global domination. They all had "insider information" and clandestine knowledge, and they all covered for their own credibility under the guise of the moral assumption that a Christian would never lie or intentionally distort the truth. Yet, time and time again, these solicitors of fantasy have invariably all been discredited and debunked. They all had books to sell, videos for purchase and classes to offer to those of us who were yet uninitiated, so there was always an incentive to perpetuate the rouse.

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However, who are we to argue. Do we know what exist in the other dimensions according to the super string theory? Perhaps Demonsions!!!
Who am I to argue? I'm someone who was exposed to this crap as a kid and fairly deeply affected by it growing up. I'm a person who still has friends and relatives that fall prey to the lies and half-truths of the truthers all in the name of right doctrine and correct religion. I have done an extensive amount of my own research and investigation and I continue to pay close attention. I am someone with some professional expertise in the study of Jewish and Christian religious literature, history, and phenomena. I would say that I am amply qualified to offer a well thought out and reasonable critique.

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Only if it were presented and perceived as "fiction". It is not, and because of that lives are affected and people destroyed because of it.
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See, it's different for me. I grew up around people like Schnoebelen. In my church growing up we were always entertaining these traveling evangelists, apologists and cult "experts" who all had grande and highly disturbing tales of a sinister underworld with designs on global domination. They all had "insider information" and clandestine knowledge, and they all covered for their own credibility under the guise of the moral assumption that a Christian would never lie or intentionally distort the truth. Yet, time and time again, these solicitors of fantasy have invariably all been discredited and debunked. They all had books to sell, videos for purchase and classes to offer to those of us who were yet uninitiated, so there was always an incentive to perpetuate the rouse.


Who am I to argue? I'm someone who was exposed to this crap as a kid and fairly deeply affected by it growing up. I'm a person who still has friends and relatives that fall prey to the lies and half-truths of the truthers all in the name of right doctrine and correct religion. I have done an extensive amount of my own research and investigation and I continue to pay close attention. I am someone with some professional expertise in the study of Jewish and Christian religious literature, history, and phenomena. I would say that I am amply qualified to offer a well thought out and reasonable critique.


Only if it were presented and perceived as "fiction". It is not, and because of that lives are affected and people destroyed because of it.
Well, for your experiences, I am truly empathetic.
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At least its cheap, I don't have to buy the books or watch the movies to hear these conspiracy theories, I can go downtown and sit with Twitchy the slightly insane alcoholic hobo. He's a fountain of conspiracy theories. He swears that not only is Elvis alive but he's the head of the free masons, and he personally oversaw Twitchy's probing by the saucer people.

His stuff sounds a lot like some of the stuff being discussed here.
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I hear the Illuminati and the Bilderburgs are gonna throw down for the true title of who will control the world.
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Interesting? So this was their plan... We will bring down the two towers, kill thousands of civilians and cause untold pain and suffering, but before we do, we will put this onto a second rate TV show, an X-Files spinoff. It is only interesting if you are unable to find any coincidence in anything in life.

But what is interesting, is that picture of the cookie monster eating the world trade center.... I thought it was terrorists, someone should tell Obama that we are going after the wrong guys.... we should be looking for a 800 foot tall blue bear thing that loves cookies. I bet it was the CIA!

Interesting....
I think you're on to something here. Some people may not know this, but Cookie Monster is a drug addict. You can never be sure what these people are capable of. Here is some very interesting and disturbing video to prove it.



Surely, one loaded muppet could not be responsible for all of this? Well, let's just say that Cookie Monster did not act alone. Another muppet, green with envy of Trent Reznor and Johnny Cash who reaped untold fortunes from a song he lived and wrote, Cookie's co-conspirator was not only an unpredictable junky, but also one bent on making a mark on the country that shunned him. Again...disturbing, but interesting video....



The truth is betrayed, junky muppets were responsible for the whole thing.
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I hear the Illuminati and the Bilderburgs are gonna throw down for the true title of who will control the world.
No way. Everybody knows it's the Freemasons who run the show.

Edit: the ultimate proof:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBav72i7I3s

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