2022 NFL Off-Season Thread

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Police want to speak with Dallas Cowboys cornerback Kelvin Joseph in connection with a shooting death last month in the Lower Greenville section of Dallas, sources said Thursday.

Cameron Ray, 20, was fatally shot after a March 18 altercation with a group of individuals that appeared to include Joseph, a second-round pick of the Cowboys last year. In video footage obtained by KDFW-TV in Dallas, one of those involved in the altercation was wearing a YKDV necklace. Joseph goes by the rap name "YKDV Bossman Fat."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...fatal-shooting

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

It is a lot of money, but QB desperation is what it is and there is no doubt whatsoever he would get more if he got to market. Although referring to him as a "star QB" is fairly embarrassing, NFL fans aren't tuning in to watch Derek Carr play football. He's a solid, Cousins-tier QB, nothing more.

We will see now that he has actual weapons, he has done very well with what he's had to work with

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by dino7c

We will see now that he has actual weapons, he has done very well with what he's had to work with

Hes gotten hate because people csnt get over that he didnt throw deep early in his career when he had no weapons

Hes become excellent at it ghe last few years, hes been top 5 in big play throws per pff

Hes obviously not in the top tier, but hes in the 2nd one for sure

[KelVarnsen]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1516819376225333259

Deebo Samuel wants to be traded out of SF

[Erick Estrada]

He saw how well it worked for Devante Adams but I'm not sure if the 49ers are keen to let him go as he's the perfect WR for the Shanahan offense.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm sure the Niners would trade him if someone offered an extreme overpay, which of course means he'll be a Jet for two firsts and two seconds.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I'm sure the Niners would trade him if someone offered an extreme overpay, which of course means he'll be a Jet for two firsts and two seconds.

I get this but it would make the transition to Lance more difficult by removing their best offensive weapon. Would be better to go the KC route where Mahomes was given the tools to succeed from day one and after he cemented himself they could afford to move on from Hill.

[KelVarnsen]

1st round of the draft is tonight. Which team(s) will do something stupid?

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

1st round of the draft is tonight. Which team(s) will do something stupid?

Anyone who drafts one of these EJ Manuel Christian Ponder ass quarterbacks

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

1st round of the draft is tonight. Which team(s) will do something stupid?

Now that Gruden is gone (Raiders don't have their first round pick anyway) I would say that the chances of a major 1st round reach is a lot lower than the past few seasons.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Anyone who drafts one of these EJ Manuel Christian Ponder ass quarterbacks

Yeah I feel this is going to be another one of those drafts where several 1st round picks get wasted on QB junk. Even if one of them turns out good enough to have an NFL career as a backup or lower tier starter he's probably going to be taken way too high.

[KelVarnsen]

The QB class reminds me of 2013.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'd recommend reading the Football Outsiders previews of the QBs. It's clear they are all very flawed and 15 years ago none of them would be first round picks. Now there's a decent chance all of them go in the first because of the desperation. After reading these I wouldn't be thrilled if my team drafted any of them, and outside of Ridder they all need work on pro concepts and should be sitting a year.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...draft-prospect
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...te-rookie-year
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...istent-round-1
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...destined-day-2

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I'd recommend reading the Football Outsiders previews of the QBs. It's clear they are all very flawed and 15 years ago none of them would be first round picks. Now there's a decent chance all of them go in the first because of the desperation. After reading these I wouldn't be thrilled if my team drafted any of them, and outside of Ridder they all need work on pro concepts and should be sitting a year.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...draft-prospect
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...te-rookie-year
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...istent-round-1
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dr...destined-day-2

I think if you have a bonafide QB guru and a veteran that he can sit behind for a year or two, Willis has the best chance to be a star out of all of these guys, but I wouldn't want to bet my job on it.

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I think if you have a bonafide QB guru and a veteran that he can sit behind for a year or two, Willis has the best chance to be a star out of all of these guys, but I wouldn't want to bet my job on it.

And Willis hasn't been linked to any team that has this.

[Senator Clay Davis]

If anyone should be all over Willis it would be the Titans. Tannehill is what he is, the dreaded Alex Smith level. Willis could be their Mahomes if they develop him properly.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

And Willis hasn't been linked to any team that has this.

The Lions have Mark Brunell as their QB coach and Goff as veteran stop-gap, so you'd think that might be a decent combo but I doubt they pass on one of the d-line prospects for him.

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by rubecube

The Lions have Mark Brunell as their QB coach and Goff as veteran stop-gap, so you'd think that might be a decent combo but I doubt they pass on one of the d-line prospects for him.

At 32nd he would make sense to them IMO but not 2nd

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

At 32nd he would make sense to them IMO but not 2nd

He won't be there at 32. Maybe a trade down or two? They have a lot of holes that need filling.

[Erick Estrada]

Lions will probably be pretty bad next season so 2023 is the draft they would be better served looking for their future QB.