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Old 11-03-2021, 05:13 PM   #401
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I already hate Jack Eichel (or at least hearing his name). Just let Vegas have him
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Tkachuk hasn't been playing at a 7m+ contract, much less being qualified for over 9m+. I honestly don't think the team misses a beat with him gone, they'll still play the same way they have now and get results as a team.

My ideal would be: Tkachuk, 2022 1st (not protected if that's the hold up), Valimaki (obviously Zadorov would be amazing but who are we kidding), any two non 1st round picks outside of Wolf.
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I feel the leak is close but something is missing in terms of contract spots or something, there has to be more coming back from BUF.
Retaining 2 mil a year maybe
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It probably has to do with one or more teams saying take it, or we pull the offers and move on. The teams involved should all get together and give the Sabres a deadline to accept. Enough of their nonsense.
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From Buffalo forum thread:


I did laugh at this one:
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If the rumour is true whoever leaked it to Weekes should be fired. I don't understand how high level employees of teams can casually give out this sort of information to a reporter. If it wasn't a high level employee then the whole front office needs a shake up. Don't care which team that applies to honestly.
Treleving should probably be fired too if this offer was true.
Didn't laugh at this one though, as it reflects my concerns about the trade:

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WOW talk about desperation this offer if I'm buffalo I'd take in a heartbeat. Whomever acquires Eichel imo won't see him in action this year and the biggest problem it's a back injury that is requiring surgery.
His chances of a full recovery with no guarantee of re-injuring his back are slim. To give up so much and write this season off then to hope he works out is a huge gamble on a 25 year old kid.
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Tkachuk, Zadorov, 2024 1st, two non-top tier prospects (say Ruzicka and Poirier), and you think Buffalo says yes? That technically meets Weekes' description - I think there's too much range in that description to know what's actually being offered, if it were actually true.

When they say “4 first round picks “, they mean value wise.

Which is not Zadorov.


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Any chance this is Buffalo’s ask and not the Flames offer?
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Hmm. So after months of talks and no leaks, someone leaks the Flames offer. Something not right IMO.
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Any chance this is Buffalo’s ask and not the Flames offer?
Yes, and the inverse is just as likely the case.
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Weekes said the Flames offer was:
· Tkachuk
· an upcoming first round pick
· a former first round pick
· two prospects

It seems natural that he would distinguish a former first round pick from other prospects who were not selected in the first round.
I tend to think he refers to former 1st round pick as a current roster player who was a first rounder.
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Doubt that's the Flames offer.
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Seems like a sleight overpayment to me.
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I tend to think he refers to former 1st round pick as a current roster player who was a first rounder.
Exactly. But I would also think a player who is younger than Tkachuk—it would make no sense to describe Monahan, Zadorov, Gudbranson or Backlund as a "former first round pick" in this context.

It seems clearly to be Valimaki.
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Hmm. So after months of talks and no leaks, someone leaks the Flames offer. Something not right IMO.

I think the media is being used by one of the teams to get things moving. Did Buffalo leak Tkachuk’s name to get Vegas to up ante? Did Calgary do this to see what the mood of the fan base with respect to Tkachuk?
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A buddy of mine on FlamesHub posted this, no source



To Cgy: Eichel, Caggiula, 2022 5th (from NJD)
To Buf: 2023 1st, 2024 1st, Wolf, Monahan, Zadorov, Dube
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Exactly. But I would also think a player who is younger than Tkachuk—it would make no sense to describe Monahan, Zadorov, Gudbranson or Backlund as a "former first round pick" in this context.

It seems clearly to be Valimaki.
Oh I agree completely - I just don’t think it refers to Zary, Pelletier or Coronato
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It probably has to do with one or more teams saying take it, or we pull the offers and move on. The teams involved should all get together and give the Sabres a deadline to accept. Enough of their nonsense.
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To Cgy: Eichel, Caggiula, 2022 5th (from NJD)
To Buf: 2023 1st, 2024 1st, Wolf, Monahan, Zadorov, Dube
Flameshub hey. I go to a site that ends in hub for 5 minutes every morning
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Flameshub hey. I go to a site that ends in hub for 5 minutes every morning
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