Theoren Fleury

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Then we won't have to watch his Game 6 overtime goal anymore that for some reason is celebrated as a great moment.

It's only a great moment if they go onto win Game 7.

Since they didn't - it is not.

I agree they should show his game winning goal in game one of the scf.

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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Exactly. If it was based purely on on-ice performance, MacInnes should have his jersey retired, and not Vernon and Lanny.

I personally don't think Vernon should have been retired, but as a young franchise it's whatever.

Lanny's pure on-ice performance doesn't warrant a retirement, but is there really a more iconic Flame? Iggy only. And it's arguable.

Retirements are only for very special players. Not just for "the best player on the team for a stretch of time".

How old are you? Lanny had a 66 goal season for the Flames. In the cup year he was more of a role player but got it done when it mattered.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Like how WWF did with Chris Benoit.

No more highlights, only significant #14 in Flames history is Kent Nilsson.

I completely forgot about Chris Benoit. Fleury is obviously not that extreme, but I wouldn't be surprised if he also had some serious brain damage over the years from both head injuries and drug abuse. Could explain why he's fallen so far off his rocker. I honestly think he needs help.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

This belongs in the grammar thread, but this can't possibly be correct, right? They are the Blues. I don't think you can just drop the S, even though it looks weird.

Jim Brown was a Cleveland Brown, not a Browns.

[T-Dog]

Someone posted a video on Facebook where Theo was speaking to a crowd of anti-vaxxers. He looks like he’s gained about 50 pounds and spewing a bunch of conspiracy theory nonsense. The Flames have made the right decision in distancing themselves from him, despite all of his on-ice accomplishments.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by troutman

Jim Brown was a Cleveland Brown, not a Browns.

"Forever a Hitmen" is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by troutman

Jim Brown was a Cleveland Brown, not a Browns.

Brown's Browns or the Browns' Brown?

[timun]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Retiring a number requires both the team and player to agree to that.
I believe that MacInnis wasn't interested in having his number retired by the Flames. He considers himself a Blue. And there was some hard feelings between the player and organization.

The Flames can retire whatever the hell numbers they want, they don't need a player's permission.

That said, it'll look reeeeeeeeeeal stupid if they retire a number and the player says "I refuse to come to the number retirement ceremony."

[looooob]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

That's too bad, Al Macinnis is a quintessential multi team player in my mind, he's as much a Blue as he is a Flame. If he didn't want to then I understand the FaF thing. Thanks for the info.

its off topic, but despite what MacInnis thinks (and I'm not saying he doesn't have an opinion) in my mind he's more a Flame than a Blue (in the same way a guy like Andre Dawson wanted to be perceived as more a Cub than an Expo the numbers just don't bear it out)


for MacInnis its a bit closer than the Dawson example, but both were more 'famous' and won their big award (Norris, MVP) in the American city, but I would argue were better players, longer and drafted and developed (which in my mind is important) in the Canadian center


MacInnis more games, points (nearly 2:1), plus minus (nearly 2:1) , season end Allstar teams as a Flame. a Conn Smythe. his only cup


the thing is for some reason he only became appreciated as a nuanced 2 way superb dman in St Louis, yet in Calgary he was that for a long time- he had the slap shot only chaos reputation, that really by about 1985 was no longer true

[Wormius]

They could just arbitrarily limit the player numbers allowed for a few seasons, and then somebody is forced to take it, thereby stripping it of any Theo association. Problem solved .

[MoneyGuy]

You can’t spell conspiracy THEOry without Theo.

[speede5]

So Theo’s Warrior record of most goals by a 16 yr old fell the other day to Brayden Yager. Theo sent him a nice video message which they played before the game tonight. No conspiracies just a cool hockey moment. Yager got another tonight and the way they are playing I wouldn’t be surprised if he hits 40.

https://www.oursportscentral.com/ser...cord/n-5801379

[MoneyGuy]

Every time I see this thread bumped up to the first couple of pages I wonder what the idiot has tweeted or said now.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Can we force a player to take #14 in the coming seasons? Would be nice to move on from him entirely.

Will never happen. As much as I disagree with Fleury's crazy takes he is still considered iconic in Flames lore. The franchise might never retire his number but the players have.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Will never happen. As much as I disagree with Fleury's crazy takes he is still considered iconic in Flames lore. The franchise might never retire his number but the players have.

Niewy and MacInnes were both better players and those numbers are still in rotation. MacInnes is STILL the all time assists leader, and by a decent margin. You could throw Gary Roberts into that category too.

No one wants #14 for fear of backlash from Theo, not out of respect I'll warrant.

[GirlySports]

How is #2 not retired? Do the right thing! Get him back!

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

How is #2 not retired? Do the right thing! Get him back!

Posters in other threads have said he didn't want his number retired by the Flames, so you have to respect that.

For my money, he and Iggy were the two best Flames ever.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

#2 is hanging from the rafter as a Forever a Flame.

He also has been inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame as a Calgary Flame (well the REAL one the Cape Breton Hockey Hall of Fame )

Plus he has an arena named for him, which an idiotic Flames Fan took a picture of with his car flag flapping in the wind.

What could really be better than that?

[Hack&Lube]

Anton Babchuk is a year younger than Gio. Can we bring him back and give him #14?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

No one wants #14 for fear of backlash from Theo, not out of respect I'll warrant.

Why would anyone fear Theo?