2021 NHL Draft

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wonder when OHL player will start to be drafted. I still think there would have been some ranked in the first round ordinarily.

There are OHL players in the first round

[TheScorpion]

Very few mentions of Mason McTavish in this thread, eh?

I think he might be my #1 target around the 10-12 range.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Very few mentions of Mason McTavish in this thread, eh?

I think he might be my #1 target around the 10-12 range.

How come?
Button's list had some pretty intestine names in the 10-15 range

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

There are OHL players in the first round

A single goalie last time I looked (Button’s list). Are there some OHL guys who are listed as playing in a Euro league?

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

How come?
Button's list had some pretty intestine names in the 10-15 range

Too many “bowels”?🥴

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A single goalie last time I looked (Button’s list). Are there some OHL guys who are listed as playing in a Euro league?

Yes. Clarke (#2) is at the top of that list

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A single goalie last time I looked (Button’s list). Are there some OHL guys who are listed as playing in a Euro league?

Yes, many.

McTavish previously played for the Peterborough Petes but spent 2020–21 in Switzerland.

Brandt Clarke went from Barrie to Slovakia.

Brennan Othmann went from Flint to Switzerland.

Daniil Chayka went from Guelph to the KHL.

Francesco Pinelli went from Kitchener to the Alps Hockey League.

There are more.

[Sandman]

I love that he has L’Heureux and Svechkov so high. I really like both guys-Svechkov is an elite 2-way talent, and L’Heureux is a mean, nasty SOB.

[ForeverFlameFan]

How is McTavish’s skating?

Dude can score, and that’s what we need.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

How is McTavish’s skating?

Dude can score, and that’s what we need.

He's not one of the best in the class.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

How is McTavish’s skating?

Dude can score, and that’s what we need.

From what I’ve seen, it’s a bit heavy-his acceleration and top speed need work, but not much. I think it will work itself out as he matures. He’s guick in short bursts.

[Hanna Sniper]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A single goalie last time I looked (Button’s list). Are there some OHL guys who are listed as playing in a Euro league?

It even has Carson Lambos from the WHL listed as SM Ligra Jr because he played 2 games there

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

It even has Carson Lambos from the WHL listed as SM Ligra Jr because he played 2 games there

[the-rasta-masta]

So by my count if everything goes right for the Flames on the out of town, and we lose all 4 remaining games, we can still finish in line for the 6th overall pick? Call up Parsons, lets tank baby.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I love that he has L’Heureux and Svechkov so high. I really like both guys-Svechkov is an elite 2-way talent, and L’Heureux is a mean, nasty SOB.

Hilarious as l'heureux means the jolly / the kind hearted or similar in French lol

[Monahammer]

Getting into the top 8 and scoring someone like Guenther would be really, really sweet.

[1qqaaz]

Zachary LHeureux has no business being in the top 15 in my opinion.
If you're picking in the top 15, it's generally a bad idea to pick CHL players who aren't well-over a point per game. When you consider the fact that LHeureux isn't a great skater, plus he's sub-6 feet, I just don't think he'd be a great pick.
I wouldn't suggest that the Flames trade down to the mid-20s to pick him. This year has been such a drag. If LHeureux was all the Flames had to show for it, it would be very disappointing.

Since 1990, there have been only three CHL forwards that the Flames picked in the first round who had lower point per game totals. Greg Nemisz and Chris Dingman are two of them. Those two players combined for 35 points in the NHL. Both were late first round picks and both were 6'3.
Morgan Klimchuk was the other. Zero points in the NHL.

There are a few guys who were only just barely point per game players (or below) and ended up being good. Ryan O'Reilly, Ryan Getzlaf and Patrice Bergeron come to mind. However, two of these guys were second round picks. But this overall these are the exceptions, not the norm.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Zachary LHeureux has no business being in the top 15 in my opinion.
If you're picking in the top 15, it's generally a bad idea to pick CHL players who aren't well-over a point per game. When you consider the fact that LHeureux isn't a great skater, plus he's sub-6 feet, I just don't think he'd be a great pick.
I wouldn't suggest that the Flames trade down to the mid-20s to pick him. This year has been such a drag. If LHeureux was all the Flames had to show for it, it would be very disappointing.

Since 1990, there have been only three CHL forwards that the Flames picked in the first round who had lower point per game totals. Greg Nemisz and Chris Dingman are two of them. Those two players combined for 35 points in the NHL. Both were late first round picks and both were 6'3.
Morgan Klimchuk was the other. Zero points in the NHL.

There are a few guys who were only just barely point per game players (or below) and ended up being good. Ryan O'Reilly, Ryan Getzlaf and Patrice Bergeron come to mind. However, two of these guys were second round picks. But this overall these are the exceptions, not the norm.

I have to respectfully disagree. A player's future projection doesn't always show up in their point totals. L'Heureux had 39pts in 33 games, so just to project that-66 games would give him 78 points, which is a better than Dach, McMichael, or Konecny just to name a few. Plus, while he didn't score at the same clip as Lafrenniere in his draft year, he posted a better scoring chances per 60 than Laf did. Problem is, he doesn't have near the talent to work with this year in Halifax, as he did last year with Pelletier in Moncton. Last year, in his D minus 1 year, he had 53 points in 55 games. If he played there this year, he would be tearing up the Q.

Not sure where you're hearing that he's a bad skater, I've read and seen plenty that would tell me the opposite. He's not an elite, burner type, but it's nothing to worry about. There are many aspects to rate a player's skating on, like balance, agility, edging, first-step, acceleration, turning, directional, etc-and he may have a hitch in one or two of those things, but it's fine. Anything that's off will fix itself as he matures.

L'Heureux may be 5'11", but he plays like a guy who's 6'3". Very nasty (maybe too nasty, he's been suspended a handful of times in the Q), physical, with a great shot, and uber-aggressive in all 3 zones. He's been said to be excellent in transition. Willing to drop the gloves at any time. I agree that right now, I wouldn't rate him that high, but I wouldn't be at all upset if we took him there.

[ForeverFlameFan]

^ imagine him and Pelletier on a line. Pain in the ass.

[Sandman]

D Aidan Hreschuk (USHL): Didn't notice him much in the U-18's, but I did notice his fantastic skating ability (not many USA players were noticeable in that tourney). Not very big at 5'11", but embodies today's prototypical defenseman in that he skates extremely well, is great in transition, makes the perfect outlet pass, and affects the game in all 3 zones. Known for his offensive play, he's great at walking the line and either threading passes, or getting the shot to the net. Plays a physical brand of hockey as well. His numbers in the USHL are very compareable to those of Jake Sanderson. Hreschuk is slotted into the second round.