2019 CFL season

[troutman]

I corrected my post - since 2001, the Pats record vs. the rest of the NFL is better than any other team - not better than their record against AFC East. I should heed my own advice and look at the evidence!

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/pat...tside-afc-east

They are .781 vs AFC East, and .753 vs the rest of the NFL (regular season).

[White Out 403]

I realize this is a Calgary forum, so, I make this post with no offense intended, so take it for face value.

The Stampeders being called the Patriots of the CFL is kind of ludicrous because the Patriots have won, what, 6 championships in a 30ish team league in the last 20 years or so?

The Stampeders are the Alouettes of the 00's. Tons of regular season success, a couple rings and probaly should have had a couple more. It's not a knock, I wish the Bombers were that good the last decade. But it's a way more accurate comparison.

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[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I realize this is a Calgary forum, so, I make this post with no offense intended, so take it for face value.

The Stampeders being called the Patriots of the CFL is kind of ludicrous because the Patriots have won, what, 6 championships in a 30ish team league in the last 20 years or so?

The Stampeders are the Alouettes of the 00's. Tons of regular season success, a couple rings and probaly should have had a couple more. It's not a knock, I wish the Bombers were that good the last decade. But it's a way more accurate comparison.

Well first of all they are much better than the Als as they are the winning-est franchise in the CFL by a large margin since 1990 finishing first in the West 15 times missing the playoffs only in the Feterik years. 12 Grey Cup appearances, winning 6 in that time frame. If you think that's not a big deal to win every year in the CFL because it's an 8/9 team league what does that say about the Bombers and their 28 year Grey Cup drought? The more you dismiss how good the Stamps have been the more it makes the Bombers look really, really bad.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well first of all they are much better than the Als as they are the winning-est franchise in the CFL by a large margin since 1990 finishing first in the West 15 times missing the playoffs only in the Feterik years. 12 Grey Cup appearances, winning 6 in that time frame. If you think that's not a big deal to win every year in the CFL because it's an 8/9 team league what does that say about the Bombers and their 28 year Grey Cup drought? The more you dismiss how good the Stamps have been the more it makes the Bombers look really, really bad.

The Bombers have definitely had a long drought for championships. That doesn't support your argument the Stampeders are the Patriots north.

[Erick Estrada]

Being in almost every 2nd Grey Cup in a 28 year period isn't enough? That's more success over the time frame than the Patriots. It's really a discussion where you can move goal posts to suit your argument. The best team in every league is the best team in every league. Some may dominate more than others but the Stamps are the dominant organization in the CFL as the Patriots are in the NFL. It's weird how you come on here first saying it's over for the Stamps after the first two weeks of a CFL season and then try to discredit their success when your team is the Browns of the CFL. It's not really my argument that the Stamps are Patriots north as that was another poster. I simply pointed out the Stamps have dominated under different circumstances than the Patriots.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I realize this is a Calgary forum, so, I make this post with no offense intended, so take it for face value.

The Stampeders being called the Patriots of the CFL is kind of ludicrous because the Patriots have won, what, 6 championships in a 30ish team league in the last 20 years or so?

The Stampeders are the Alouettes of the 00's. Tons of regular season success, a couple rings and probaly should have had a couple more. It's not a knock, I wish the Bombers were that good the last decade. But it's a way more accurate comparison.

If -- IF! -- there is an equivalent to the Patriots in the CFL, it's clearly the Stamps:

Since 2007, Patriots have been to six Super Bowls and won three of them. That includes making it to the Super Bowl four out of the past five years, winning three times.

Since 2007, Stampeders have been to six Grey Cups and won three of them. That includes making it to the Grey Cup four out of the past five years, winning twice.

That said, I will readily concede that it's significantly more difficult to get to the Super Bowl, let alone win it. Also, the Patriots (specifically Belichick and Brady) have had success over a longer period of time (i.e. 20 years), compared to the Hufnagel era which started in 2005. So it's not really much of a comparison, even if Bo Levi wins 2 or 3 more Grey Cups in the next 3-4 years...

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Being in almost every 2nd Grey Cup in a 28 year period isn't enough? That's more success over the time frame than the Patriots. It's really a discussion where you can move goal posts to suit your argument. The best team in every league is the best team in every league. Some may dominate more than others but the Stamps are the dominant organization in the CFL as the Patriots are in the NFL. It's weird how you come on here first saying it's over for the Stamps after the first two weeks of a CFL season and then try to discredit their success when your team is the Browns of the CFL. It's not really my argument that the Stamps are Patriots north as that was another poster. I simply pointed out the Stamps have dominated under different circumstances than the Patriots.

Why is it weird for me to come on here and suggest that the Stampeders dominance may be over? It's certainly be postulated in the media, hasn't it? You can trash the Bombers all you like, again, it doesn't support any claim you want to make about how great the amazing Stampeders are. I've been a die hard fan of my team my entire life, and the last 29 years has really sucked watching my team flop in the big game. Does it make you feel like a superior fan to keep rubbing that in?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Why is it weird for me to come on here and suggest that the Stampeders dominance may be over? It's certainly be postulated in the media, hasn't it? You can trash the Bombers all you like, again, it doesn't support any claim you want to make about how great the amazing Stampeders are.

I don't go out of my way to trash the Bombers. I brought up their 28 year drought to show that it's not as easy to win a Grey Cup as you make it out to be. The fact that you cheer for the most inept team over the past 30 years makes your posts trying to discredit the Stamps all the more bizarre. You have kind of been doing more trash talking about the Stamps than anyone here about the Bombers since the season started which is fine but then you get surprised when people question your posts.

Once and for all. The reason we discuss on a Calgary forum how great the Stampeders have been is because we can.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't go out of my way to trash the Bombers. I brought up their 28 year drought to show that it's not as easy to win a Grey Cup as you make it out to be. You have kind of been doing more trash talking about the Stamps than anyone here about the Bombers.

Once and for all. The reason we discuss on a Calgary forum how great the Stampeders have been is because we can.

Wow you certainly can dish it out but have thin skin, dontcha?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Wow you certainly can dish it out but have thin skin, dontcha?

Not thin skin at all. Why would you say that? Have I insulted you in any way? Maybe it pains you to admit how good the Stampeders have been over the last 30 years but I have no problems admitting it.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Not thin skin at all. Why would you say that? Have I insulted you in any way? Maybe it pains you to admit how good the Stampeders have been over the last 30 years but I have no problems admitting it.

Oh no doubt. I would say that in terms of CFL organizations, the Stampeders have to be , of the last 10 years, probably one of the best run the CFL has seen. Montreal in the 00's, Edmonton and Winnipeg in the 80s, they come to mind but, you know, recency bias.

I am glad though that the success hasn't gone to your head. God forbid you act like the Riders fans* did in the late 00's

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Why is it weird for me to come on here and suggest that the Stampeders dominance may be over? It's certainly be postulated in the media, hasn't it?

If your definition of dominance being over is that this year they might not win 13 or more games, finish first in the regular season in the CFL, win the west final and be in the Grey Cup like they have since 2016, then that's probably a reasonable preliminary viewpoint to take this year given the roster turnover and injuries. But again probably still preliminary as there are still 15 games to go and they haven't exactly disqualified themselves from doing so just because they lost late in one game to the REDBLACKS.

If your definition of dominance is finishing 1st or 2nd in the west pretty much year in year out. Then saying their era of dominance is over and they will revert back to being just like any other team in the west not just this year but beyond is probably way too premature and bordering on nonsense. The reason why is because the source of the Stampeders dominance transcends any collection of players, coaches, etc. It's Huff and the organization and brand he's built. He's turned over the entire roster numerous times since 2008 and most years they finish first in the division and if not second (They tied 2nd and lost the tie breaker so they technically finished 3rd once in 2011). Hosting a home playoff game is so standard for the team they they casually just include the ticket in the STH package and no one complains. If they struggle this year it will likely be an aberration and they will be back again next year and the next year and so forth so long as Huff is running things.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

If -- IF! -- there is an equivalent to the Patriots in the CFL, it's clearly the Stamps:

Since 2007, Patriots have been to six Super Bowls and won three of them. That includes making it to the Super Bowl four out of the past five years, winning three times.

Since 2007, Stampeders have been to six Grey Cups and won three of them. That includes making it to the Grey Cup four out of the past five years, winning twice.

That said, I will readily concede that it's significantly more difficult to get to the Super Bowl, let alone win it. Also, the Patriots (specifically Belichick and Brady) have had success over a longer period of time (i.e. 20 years), compared to the Hufnagel era which started in 2005. So it's not really much of a comparison, even if Bo Levi wins 2 or 3 more Grey Cups in the next 3-4 years...

There's little debate it harder to win a Super Bowl. There are more NFL teams (12) that have never won the Super Bowl than there are CFL teams. I fully acknowledge that the Patriots with Belichick and Brady are the greatest franchise in the history of the NFL. I don't care what anyone says about the Steelers, 49ers, or Cowboys teams of the past, the Patriots have accomplished more. I still like to point out playing in the AFC East has played a role in their domination (because it's true) but I cannot take anything away from them. They deserve all the credit they get as we will probably not see another NFL team in our lifetime dominate as they have.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Why is it weird for me to come on here and suggest that the Stampeders dominance may be over? It's certainly be postulated in the media, hasn't it? You can trash the Bombers all you like, again, it doesn't support any claim you want to make about how great the amazing Stampeders are. I've been a die hard fan of my team my entire life, and the last 29 years has really sucked watching my team flop in the big game. Does it make you feel like a superior fan to keep rubbing that in?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Why is it weird for me to come on here and suggest that the Stampeders dominance may be over? It's certainly be postulated in the media, hasn't it? You can trash the Bombers all you like, again, it doesn't support any claim you want to make about how great the amazing Stampeders are. I've been a die hard fan of my team my entire life, and the last 29 years has really sucked watching my team flop in the big game. Does it make you feel like a superior fan to keep rubbing that in?

You were coming to a Calgary forum and saying it with two games of evidence (one being a win)

Kinda lame

Stamps are by far the best CFL team of the last decade
Patriots are by far the best NFL team of the last decade

I realize they are not exactly the same but they both have a knack of finding replacements when players leave and plugging them into the system

[CaptainCrunch]

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Hopefully the Argo's feel better about releasing Poop.



Sadly he didn't make a splash in his time with the Argo's.

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[M*A*S*H 4077]

I’m guessing all 9 teams have Kevin Glenn on speed dial

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Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

I’m guessing all 9 teams have Kevin Glenn on speed dial

Jeff Garcia is only 49 years old, take a page out of the George Blanda book and strap on the pads.