Circumcision, why is this a thing...

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I intend to raise it with our OBGYN for his inpit.

Good on you sir. You are a voice of reason in this thread. Please don't make your decision based on the back and forth in this thread, please make the decision after a full consultation with your medical professional. Just like anyone who is considering a medical procedure, have that discussion with your doctor, have them explain the pros/cons, and let them guide your decision.

[BloodFetish]

I don't have kids and never will, but I was musing on if I were to have a baby boy what my choice would be. I was circumcised as a baby and my choice would be to have my child circumcised as well.

Earlier in this thread some posters have ridiculed the notion of having your child circumcised so his dink could look like his old mans, and mocked it as an egotistical decision.

Not the case at all, and Makarov just hit upon the reason why I'd have it done - familiarity. As a circumcised man how could I help my son through any problems he's experiencing, pain, odor, whatever, if I haven't gone through them myself? I looked through the link Troutman posted earlier regarding hygiene and was surprised at all the things I just don't worry about. Not enough washing = bad. Excessive washing = bad. Making sure your physician doesn't retract the foreskin before it's damn well good and ready. All this stuff is a mystery to me.

Anyway, my 2 cents. Some posters may feel strongly enough about the subject to come after me. Go right ahead, but chances are I won't respond because frankly I just don't care enough about it. Even the fact that I've given the topic any thought whatsoever is surprising. Thanks CP, for your weird and wondrous threads!

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by New Era

Good on you sir. You are a voice of reason in this thread. Please don't make your decision based on the back and forth in this thread, please make the decision after a full consultation with your medical professional. Just like anyone who is considering a medical procedure, have that discussion with your doctor, have them explain the pros/cons, and let them guide your decision.

Except that an OBGYN, which is a doctor that specializes in women's health, probably isn't your best bet to have the conversation with.

[calf]

As a circumcised man how could I help my son through any problems he's experiencing, pain, odor, whatever, if I haven't gone through them myself? I looked through the link Troutman posted earlier regarding hygiene and was surprised at all the things I just don't worry about. Not enough washing = bad. Excessive washing = bad. Making sure your physician doesn't retract the foreskin before it's damn well good and ready. All this stuff is a mystery to me.

Honestly, it's like anything you don't know - you look it up, ask a professional, talk to other parents about it, etc. It's not an insurmountable challenge; it's just washing And there's a lot of trial and error in parenting too - something isn't working out right because you don't fully get it, you figure out what went wrong and change what you do going forward.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Except that an OBGYN, which is a doctor that specializes in women's health, probably isn't your best bet to have the conversation with.

Obstetrician-gynecologists can do them and are familiar with them.


Who performs circumcisions?

The procedure may be done by your obstetrician–gynecologist (ob-gyn) or by a pediatrician, a physician who takes care of the health of children. In some cases, a circumcision may be done in a nonmedical setting for religious or cultural reasons. If this is the case, the person doing the circumcision should be well trained in how to do the procedure, how to relieve pain, and how to prevent infection.



Source: https://www.acog.org/Patients/FAQs/N...e-Circumcision

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by New Era

Obstetrician-gynecologists can do them and are familiar with them.

I'm not saying they can't or that they aren't familiar with them. I'm saying that if you're asking for the advice of a medical professional on how to deal with a penis, the medical professional who deals (pretty much exclusively) with the vagina probably isn't your best bet. There are doctors out there who deal with penises and it's probably a better idea to ask one of them.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by Makarov

So my first son is due at the end of October. My wife and I are really struggling with the circumcision decision. Neither of us is religious but, if we're honest, I think we would both admit to a familiarity/aesthetic preference for circumcision. This thread has not helped mystruggle much. I intend to raise it with our OBGYN for his inpit. Has anyone ever received advice from their doctor on this issue?

FYI, if you attend the hospital prep classes, some of them spend time on this issue. At least they did for us (here in Toronto).
Also, your family doctor may also be a valuable resource for information

Finally, the Canadian Paediatric Society has updated/reaffirmed their position very recently (Feb 2018), and have great resources on both circumcised and non-circumcised care. It's a good place for unbiased opinion:

https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/circumcision
https://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/circumcision

As noted in this thread, there are polarizing opinions on both sides but at the end of the day, you'll make the decision on what you think is best for your child and family

Only thing I would recommend is if you get the procedure done for your kid, that it's by a health care provider, and that they use local anesthetic.

Best of luck with you decision

LChoy

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

FYI, if you attend the hospital prep classes, some of them spend time on this issue. At least they did for us (here in Toronto).
Also, your family doctor may also be a valuable resource for information

Finally, the Canadian Paediatric Society has updated/reaffirmed their position very recently (Feb 2018), and have great resources on both circumcised and non-circumcised care. It's a good place for unbiased opinion:

https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/circumcision
https://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/handouts/circumcision

As noted in this thread, there are polarizing opinions on both sides but at the end of the day, you'll make the decision on what you think is best for your child and family

Only thing I would recommend is if you get the procedure done for your kid, that it's by a health care provider, and that they use local anesthetic.

Best of luck with you decision

LChoy

Thanks for the resources. Very helpful.

And yes, if we do decide to have it done, it will certainly be in the safest, most hygienic, least painful way possible

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by speede5

I'm not evil or barbaric. This thread has about 4 informative posts and a whole bunch of nonsense.

Well, you'll be pleased to know that hasn't changed with your contribution

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by FireFly

I'm not saying they can't or that they aren't familiar with them. I'm saying that if you're asking for the advice of a medical professional on how to deal with a penis, the medical professional who deals (pretty much exclusively) with the vagina probably isn't your best bet. There are doctors out there who deal with penises and it's probably a better idea to ask one of them.

I would agree with this statement. There are specific doctors that do this and your OBGYN or after care clinic will be able to provide you with a list of approved places and doctors to complete it. An OBGYN would not regularly do that procedure and probably has never done it in their career.

Source : As previously stated my wife is an OBGYN......currently on mat leave with our 1 month old circumcised son.

[FireGilbert]

I like my foreskin. It is a good time. I'm very thankful my parents decided to leave me intact even though I do not match my father.

Some of you don't know what you are missing out on. It's like never shifting your car into 5th gear, putting Parmesan on your pasta, or getting a business class upgrade. You have still lived a happy and satisfying life but it could have been enhanced.

[JohnnyB]

Don't see why anyone would count on a medical professional to guide them in their decision unless they're just considering it for medical reasons. It seems most people who want to do it with their kids have that desire based upon family tradition or cultural reasons.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

3) As someone who watched a lot of porn as a teenager (like a lot of teenagers), I felt normal. As someone who had self-confidence issues (and confidence with girls issues) as a teenager (like lots of teenagers) the thought of having an uncircumcised penis being another factor working against me never crossed my mind. And I already hated a whole lot about my body growing up and I know I wouldnt have liked my uncircumcised penis.

We mostly watch the same porn here in Europe (and all over the world really), yet we manage to mostly not have that issue.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Don't see why anyone would count on a medical professional to guide them in their decision unless they're just considering it for medical reasons. It seems most people who want to do it with their kids have that desire based upon family tradition or cultural reasons.

I think this is the point, if not being done for medical reasons it shouldn’t be done until the child can choose for themselves.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Don't see why anyone would count on a medical professional to guide them in their decision unless they're just considering it for medical reasons. It seems most people who want to do it with their kids have that desire based upon family tradition or cultural reasons.

Probably because they have the expertise to inform you the benefits and risks of such a procedure. Kind of like why you should consult an attorney before making a long term legal commitment. My advice is to always consult those who have actual expertise on the issue and be fully informed before making an important decision. Or you can just take advice of random strangers from an Internet discussion board. Both seem like equally intelligent paths to inform yourself on an important issue.

[-TC-]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Honestly it's a human rights violation..

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to The Internet.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by -TC-

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to The Internet.

Almost, but not until circumcision = Hitler.

[Coys1882]

foreskin gives my penis

• an extra slot in my inventory
• Immunity to poison
• bonus armor against physical damage
• +50 frost resistance

[Thor]

I've spent the last year in committee with our parliament for intersex infants and of course any infant where a parent demands to modify their genitals.

Its amazing to see so many logical, skeptical CP people defend this.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by New Era

Probably because they have the expertise to inform you the benefits and risks of such a procedure. Kind of like why you should consult an attorney before making a long term legal commitment. My advice is to always consult those who have actual expertise on the issue and be fully informed before making an important decision. Or you can just take advice of random strangers from an Internet discussion board. Both seem like equally intelligent paths to inform yourself on an important issue.

My point was that the motivating factor for the large majority of people seems to be non-medical. People are choosing it for cultural, family or personal reasons. A doctor's not who to consult on a question of values.