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Old 03-03-2016, 02:09 PM   #4161
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I noticed a really interesting tend over the last week or so. Up until now, Trump has benefited from less of exposure, but the media were avoiding conflict by trying to remain nonpartisan and avoid labeling lies as such or taking him to team for racial overtones. What's happening now is the media almost entirely is ridiculing him and blatantly calling him a liar. Search Trump news a few weeks ago and it was polling numbers and stories on controversial statements. Do the same now and it's editorials of all stripes labeling him as an awful person, even ridiculing him. Fortune magazine treated a PSA reminding Trump his companies aren't on the Fortune 500 list after he blamed all his audits on running a Fortune 500 company. It's coming from everywhere and I'm curious if he takes a bit in his pooling numbers because of his new exposure
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CNN treats him with kid gloves, because he is good for ratings. There are suggestions Trump got Van Jones removed from the panel for going after Lord.

SNL was soft on him too.
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Typically you don't find out the future president is a big fat liar until AFTER he is elected into office.

Trump caters to the dumb lower class americans (which is a majority of the population) who think Trump is out to help the little guy. They are tired of getting screwed by politicians and are about to find out what it's like to be screwed by a rich immoral businessman instead. He's a smart man who knows how the poor american ticks. What they are tolerant and intolerant to. There's no way someone as educated as Trump actually believes in half the crap he says. He just knows the american voters believe it.

And it's hilarious that they think the outside world doesn't know about Trump and only read the tabloids. We all have the same access to news articles, interviews and debates. Not to mention we typically follow American politics more than Canadian politics.
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Old 03-03-2016, 02:59 PM   #4165
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I dunno, from my perspective Trump is the most over exposed presidential candidate ever, always in the headlines. On CNN right now, 4 of their 11 "top" stories are Trump, 1 Clinton, 0 everyone else.

Baring something drastic changing, Trump will go to the convention with the biggest delegation, whether it is a majority who knows. But even if it's not he's probably going to have enough delegates that it's going to be hard for the republicans to justify nominating someone else with less then half the delegates and more then half the states voting for him.

March 15th could go a long way to determining how it's going to play out. If all goes well with him he could conceivably take down 300 of the 367 delegates available that day. Add that to the 338 he has now and the 125-150 delegates he'll likely grab in the mean time and he could be between 750 and 800 when no one else is even at 400.

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CNN treats him with kid gloves, because he is good for ratings. There are suggestions Trump got Van Jones removed from the panel for going after Lord.

SNL was soft on him too.
The Washington Post, WSJ, and virtually every main stream media in both sides are now saying "this isn't funny anymore now that it's getting real". This is a far different tone than a couple weeks ago. CNN is about the only one not to join in
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I dunno, from my perspective Trump is the most over exposed presidential candidate ever, always in the headlines. On CNN right now, 4 of their 11 "top" stories are Trump, 1 Clinton, 0 everyone else.

Baring something drastic changing, Trump will go to the convention with the biggest delegation, whether it is a majority who knows. But even if it's not he's probably going to have enough delegates that it's going to be hard for the republicans to justify nominating someone else with less then half the delegates and more then half the states voting for him.

March 15th could go a long way to determining how it's going to play out. If all goes well with him he could conceivably take down 300 of the 367 delegates available that day. Add that to the 338 he has now and the 125-150 delegates he'll likely grab in the mean time and he could be between 750 and 800 when no one else is even at 400.
Love him or hate him, he's making this arguably the most entertaining and interesting presidential election ever. He's going to get lots of coverage, and it's not going to stop any time soon.
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I noticed a really interesting tend over the last week or so. Up until now, Trump has benefited from less of exposure, but the media were avoiding conflict by trying to remain nonpartisan and avoid labeling lies as such or taking him to team for racial overtones. What's happening now is the media almost entirely is ridiculing him and blatantly calling him a liar. Search Trump news a few weeks ago and it was polling numbers and stories on controversial statements. Do the same now and it's editorials of all stripes labeling him as an awful person, even ridiculing him. Fortune magazine treated a PSA reminding Trump his companies aren't on the Fortune 500 list after he blamed all his audits on running a Fortune 500 company. It's coming from everywhere and I'm curious if he takes a bit in his pooling numbers because of his new exposure
It will be interesting to see. With Clinton, it's pretty clear her negatives are "baked in" to her current favourability numbers, in that people feel they know who she is already and have formed an opinion based on all of that information. She is who she is, and people have more or less made up their minds as to whether they like her or not.

That may be the case with Trump as well, in which case he won't take much of a hit at all. If not, we may well see that dip in his poll numbers once voters take a closer look. Hard to say.
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It will be interesting to see. With Clinton, it's pretty clear her negatives are "baked in" to her current favourability numbers, in that people feel they know who she is already and have formed an opinion based on all of that information. She is who she is, and people have more or less made up their minds as to whether they like her or not.

That may be the case with Trump as well, in which case he won't take much of a hit at all. If not, we may well see that dip in his poll numbers once voters take a closer look. Hard to say.
The incredible amount of negativity on t Trump is snowballing. I'd say literally 50 times as much and I'm not exaggerating. It's coming from the left and right now. Will that have an impact on his polling?
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The incredible amount of negativity on t Trump is snowballing. I'd say literally 50 times as much and I'm not exaggerating. It's coming from the left and right now. Will that have an impact on his polling?
I've never seen a unanimous F this guy in presidential politics before. Who knows if it'll have an impact.
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The incredible amount of negativity on t Trump is snowballing. I'd say literally 50 times as much and I'm not exaggerating. It's coming from the left and right now. Will that have an impact on his polling?

Mitt Romney's speech from today is a fascinating read:

http://time.com/4246596/donald-trump.../?xid=tcoshare
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Romney is apparently considering getting involved in a contested convention. Is it me or is the GOP actually trying to hand it to Trump now? All this talk about contested conventions is...exactly what Trump should want because it shows textbook establishment politics, and might drive more voters to him than away from him. I really can't see them doing a contested convention unless their down ticket numbers are so terrible they might win with Trump, but will lose the House and Senate as a consequence. Don't see how a contested convention doesn't end in a bad loss in the Presidential race, but keeping either the House or Senate is obviously vital to the GOP, so if the numbers say Trump will destroy down ticket they might have no choice.
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Mitt Romney's speech from today is a fascinating read:

http://time.com/4246596/donald-trump.../?xid=tcoshare
The video is choppy but here it is.



Quite frankly this guy would be a better president than anyone who has a shot at winning the Republican nomination this time. As would McCain. Finally a race they could win, and these guys are nowhere to be found.
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Quite frankly this guy would be a better president than anyone who has a shot at winning the Republican nomination this time. As would McCain. Finally a race they could win, and these guys are nowhere to be found.
That's exactly what I think as well. It's like America is progressing backwards....
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Also, for those who are of the view that the GOP is more enthusiastic this year (not saying that's wrong) here is another data point to consider: GOP voters generally don't like any of their choices:
http://http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-kind-of-hate-all-their-choices/
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I wonder what would happen if there was a contested convention and people started passing around "Draft Romney / McCain" placards around?

Popcorn time.
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"I am so honored and pleased to have Donald Trump's endorsement. Donald Trump has shown an extraordinary ability to understand how our economy works. To create jobs for the American people. He's done it here in Nevada. He's done it across the country."




Was Romney the heaviest piece of artillery the Republican goons could muster from the political afterlife? Who is next? Bob Dole, Dick Lugar, and John McCain? Even Harold Stassen should be heard from. What, he’s dead? So is the GOP.

Jeepers, Mittens couldn't even beat O'Bama. Who cares what he says?
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Jeepers, Mittens couldn't even beat O'Bama. Who cares what he says?
I have absolutely no doubt that this will be Trump's rebuttal. In fact, now that I look...

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Failed candidate Mitt Romney,who ran one of the worst races in presidential history,is working with the establishment to bury a big "R" win!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 22h22 hours ago
Looks like two-time failed candidate Mitt Romney is going to be telling Republicans how to get elected. Not a good messenger!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 14h14 hours ago
I am the only one who can beat Hillary Clinton. I am not a Mitt Romney, who doesn't know how to win. Hillary wants no part of "Trump"

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Why did Mitt Romney BEG me for my endorsement four years ago?
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Lying yet again...
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I have absolutely no doubt that this will be Trump's rebuttal. In fact, now that I look...





Lying yet again...
Catching a politician in a lie is like hitting a fat kid with a dodgeball.
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Catching a politician in a lie is like hitting a fat kid with a dodgeball.
Yeah but this doorknob proclaims not to be a politician. But no one ever swayed a Drumpf fan with facts.
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