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Old 07-02-2024, 07:35 AM   #4141
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I can't imagine Kane can afford to just ride LTIR...he probably at least needs to play to try and land another deal after this one.
He has two years left on his deal. He can play the game this year come back for the playoffs and be productive next year and land a deal….. all to try to get Mavi and Pissy to stay
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Old 07-02-2024, 07:38 AM   #4142
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Man I hope Leon pulls a Johnny and strings them along the entire season just to bolt in FA.
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Old 07-02-2024, 07:45 AM   #4143
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So based on my Twitter timeline the Oilers won free agency, have the deepest forward group in the league and will win multiple cups for years to come
So basically the same #### they've said since drafting 1st 5 times in 6 years.
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Old 07-02-2024, 07:46 AM   #4144
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Not offer sheeting Holloway and Broberg at 4.5 mil each would be a fireable offense
Wouldn't offering both the same contract, which needs the same picks as compensation (therefore can't be done) be a fireable offencew?
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He will ride LTIR this year. Arvidsson will mysteriously reinjure his back late Feb and clear another few million for D at deadline. Both will be healthy by, but not before, playoffs.
Thanks Vegas
Not sure how it would work but for once I would like to see one of these teams caught in the lie and punished for it. And it would be oh so sweet if that team was the oilers. Would need to be a doctor revealing he was pressured by the team or something.
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Old 07-02-2024, 08:00 AM   #4146
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Not offer sheeting Holloway and Broberg at 4.5 mil each would be a fireable offense
Why, neither are that good
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Old 07-02-2024, 08:10 AM   #4147
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They have to be under the cap, without LTIR, when the season starts, correct? Then they can exceed cap by whatever amount..

Perhaps I misremember
No, I'm pretty sure that is not the case. Several teams in the past has gone into the the season over the cap if you counted players on LTIR.
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The Oilers are running an Old Folks home!

Players 25 and Younger: 4
Players between 29-26 : 3
Players 30 and Older: 15
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:33 AM   #4149
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So basically the same #### they've said since drafting 1st 5 times in 6 years.
Got it!

Yup. Oiler fans and their media bootlickers have been saying this since 2015.

What was that hilarious quote from MacLean a few years ago: "It's not a question of if they'll win it, but how many cups they'll win" or something along those lines?
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:34 AM   #4150
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No one was going to give Smith another contract at 41. His career was over after that contract.

If Kane doesn't play next season, his career will likely be over but if he plays next season, he might be able to earn another contract and get another few years of NHL paycheques.
I think this is the big difference between the two. Kane is probably unwilling to be done with this contract, and I am willing to bet his ego has him believing he has another few years of good contracts left in him. Humble is not a term I think anyone has used about Kane in his life. This means that he probably isn't okay just sitting out when he knows he will need to show he can perform for another contract. The other thing is both Vegas and TB players had legitimate surgeries to provide cover for cap shenanigans. Is Kane willing to have an actual unnecessary surgery just for the oilers, who he has started to battle with this season, at the risk of both his physically abilities as well as future contracts?
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:47 AM   #4151
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The Oilers are running an Old Folks home!

Players 25 and Younger: 4
Players between 29-26 : 3
Players 30 and Older: 15
The fall will be fast, hard and will likely last a looooong time.

Just need to fade the next two McDavid years and hope he leaves.
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:47 AM   #4152
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So how does it go from feverishly trying to trade Kane and having no takers to now he has this hip injury that will hold him out…..I mean I know the answer but come on NHL it’s embarrassing

Almost bank the following,

- Bowman as GM
- Kane on LTIR
- Carter Hart by the New Year

And my wildcard in coach Q brought in as an associate/asssistant coach
If I could put money on a parlay of these things I certainly would. Lots.
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Old 07-02-2024, 10:30 AM   #4153
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Oilers also trading away a (potentially) unprotected 2026 first round pick is awesome. I hope they decide to trade their 2025 first round pick this season and are in full teardown mode the year after once Drai walks and McDavid informs the team he won't be re-signing.
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Old 07-02-2024, 10:43 AM   #4154
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Oilers also trading away a (potentially) unprotected 2026 first round pick is awesome. I hope they decide to trade their 2025 first round pick this season and are in full teardown mode the year after once Drai walks and McDavid informs the team he won't be re-signing.
All of this is good. It's next year that concerns me.
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Old 07-02-2024, 10:51 AM   #4155
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The Oilers are running an Old Folks home!

Players 25 and Younger: 4
Players between 29-26 : 3
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Window is the rest of McDavid's contract, then that place will become a hospice.

I like that they're loading up because it makes walking Leon to FA more likely. Not a chance they gut the roster at the TDL and slim chance Peepee inks an extension early.
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:01 AM   #4156
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All a distraction because Drai didnt sign
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:14 AM   #4157
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Oilers also trading away a (potentially) unprotected 2026 first round pick is awesome. I hope they decide to trade their 2025 first round pick this season and are in full teardown mode the year after once Drai walks and McDavid informs the team he won't be re-signing.
They already traded their 2025 pick, unless they miss the playoffs & finish in the bottom 12.
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:19 AM   #4158
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All a distraction because Drai didnt sign
Looks like they plan to go all-in and run him to free agency.
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:25 AM   #4159
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Looks like they plan to go all-in and run him to free agency.
They don't really have any other choice.
So simply need to derail the upcoming year and it all falls apart after that.
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Old 07-02-2024, 11:29 AM   #4160
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Not offer sheeting Holloway and Broberg at 4.5 mil each would be a fireable offense
Ok... but what happens if they decide not to match? Then you're stuck paying either of them 4.5M a year. Why not just call Gary and ask him to deduct 4.5M from your cap space and save yourself the trouble. Actually, you'd be better off that way than if you also had to have the player too.
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