2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by RedHot25

Maybe you have this the other way around. I bet lots of scouts of teams like that are looking at a Hudler, Russell, etc.

I'm of the minority opinion that Flames are better without them both. So I disagree that it has any bearing on BT's post season expectations. IMO it is good asset management to get picks/prospects for a couple of guys that don't figure in the long term plans.

Originally Posted by Poe969

Teams aren't scouting, they just want to watch Johnny play whenever they can purely for enjoyment.

Might not be too far off. There is only one other player in the league that is so dynamic. The forward log jam doesn't hurt either (as a reason for watching).

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Lol. Funny. Remember last season when Hiller was good.

He doesn't seem to be coming back, Ramo worked it out and came back (to average).

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If flames are serious about keeping Granlund up for rest of season then they need to trade somebody. As much as i don't like Raymond hartley has been using him so i doubt they are thinking about sending him down. Jooris would be picked up on waivers. Trade Bollig maybe? Then there is the xmas trade freeze that complicates things. If Bouma comes back sooner than later, do the flames send Granlund down?

Granlund brings more, and there are a couple more in Stockton that deserve a chance. I hope BT can clear out the log jam.

[sureLoss]

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...361904251.html

League and player sources have confirmed that Jets captain Andrew Ladd has asked for a six-year deal worth at least $41 million, that defenceman Dustin Byfuglien has requested $55 million over eight years and that defenceman Jacob Trouba wants more than $56 million over the maximum eight years allowed in the league’s CBA with its players.

[The Yen Man]

I'm sorry, but Andrew Ladd is not worth $7M a year. He's worth about $4M max IMO. Trouba has regressed since his first year. I would try to bridge him. Byfuglien, I'd trade him on the deadline. Some team is going to overpay him with term, and they're going to regret it.

[Badgers Nose]

Well, I guess we know where Hamonic is going now.

Jets will move Trouba for Hamonic and maybe something else. Those devils.

I bet they turn those three guys into some really good assets.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Well, I guess we know where Hamonic is going now.

Jets will move Trouba for Hamonic and maybe something else. Those devils.

I bet they turn those three guys into some really good assets.

Depends if Trouba is going to ask for the same money from the Islanders and if Snow thinks Trouba is worth that kind of cash.

[The Yen Man]

There were rumours that Trouba does not want to play in Winnipeg. Him asking for the max might be a way for his camp to pressure Jets in dealing him. Sounds kind of similar to Hamilton and Boston TBH.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm sorry, but Andrew Ladd is not worth $7M a year. He's worth about $4M max IMO.

Uhh, what? Ladd consistently gets 20+ goals and 50+ points, he's the captain of the team, he's big and he plays hard. No way he's only worth that.

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

There were rumours that Trouba does not want to play in Winnipeg. Him asking for the max might be a way for his camp to pressure Jets in dealing him. Sounds kind of similar to Hamilton and Boston TBH.

But the Jets aren't in cap hell like Boston.

If the demands of Ladd and Byfuglien are true and they get those amounts, thats a $3.1m rise for both players and it could well be less in terms of the cap hit. Gives them plenty of wiggle room to negotiate with Trouba wouldn't it?

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by JJ1532

But the Jets aren't in cap hell like Boston.

If the demands of Ladd and Byfuglien are true and they get those amounts, thats a $3.1m rise for both players and it could well be less in terms of the cap hit. Gives them plenty of wiggle room to negotiate with Trouba wouldn't it?

No, but there is no way Trouba is worth $56M over 8 years, at least not after his first 3 years anyways. If he takes a hard stance and doesn't sign for anything less, are teh Jets really going to sign him to that amount?

[Ozy_Flame]

Remember when they said Gio was asking for 9 mil, and how that turned out? Yeah . . .

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Lol. Funny. Remember last season when Hiller was good.

No one can question that Hiller was very good last season, but the motto of professional sports is always "what have you done for me lately?" And lately he has looked absolutely terrible. The team has won its last couple games in spite of poor goaltending. Also, I don't think it's valid anymore to use sample size as an excuse. 10GP, 3.76 GAA, .862 Sv%. That is horrible horrible goaltending. With the early hole the team has put itself in, they can't just keep playing him hoping he finds his game or hoping the team can put up 5 goals on a nightly basis. He was good last season, seems like a good guy and teammate, but those aren't realistic reasons to let him keep him around.

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

No, but there is no way Trouba is worth $56M over 8 years, at least not after his first 3 years anyways. If he takes a hard stance and doesn't sign for anything less, are teh Jets really going to sign him to that amount?

But if I'm understanding the process correctly, they still have all the cards.

Apparently his agent has said his demands aren't correct, so maybe this debate is somewhat pointless, but anyway...

Both sides, according to the report, have agreed to leave negotiations until the end of the season. That to me shows how much power the Jets hold. They are happy to leave it and, worst case scenario, let it go to the draft.

If the talks get nowhere, they could trade his rights at the draft, or, if they don't like the return, they could let it get to the offer sheet stage. Say he gets offer sheeted to a $3.6m-$5.4m contract. Jets decline, get a 1st and a 3rd.

Or, for a higher deal, they get a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Thats if he even gets offer sheeted, because teams might not want to give up that amount of picks for him.

They still hold all the aces. You're right, he isn't worth that and the Jets won't pay him that. For what its worth, he'll more than likely lower his demands and sign something in the $4m-$6m IMO. Unless his heart is set on a move away from Winnipeg, which then makes things very interesting.

[sureLoss]

TSN Insider trading:

Penguins considered Carlyle for head coach, but no contact made

Teams looking for top defencemen: Buffalo, Colorado, Columbus, Edmonton, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, Tampa
Nashville and St. Louis might be selling closer to the deadline

Some believe Tyson Barrie could command $6 to $8 million per year
Avs aren't shopping him
Teams are sniffing around or at least scouting Barrie in case Avs consider moving him, but wary of asking price

[Racki]

https://twitter.com/sungarrioch/stat...55039872282626

https://twitter.com/pammerhockey/sta...53345297989632

[hockey.modern]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

https://twitter.com/sungarrioch/stat...55039872282626

https://twitter.com/pammerhockey/sta...53345297989632

- Heard Kings wanting some more players to push them over the top. Treliving could add some rental players to them

- Ottawa wants denfencemen

[Flame12]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

- Heard Kings wanting some more players to push them over the top. Treliving could add some rental players to them

- Ottawa wants denfencemen

We could even do a Wideman for Wideman deal!

[Vinny01]

I get the feeling that Trouba is pulling a Hamilton in Winnipeg. He is demanding a ridiculous contract hoping they trade him. I think Trouba for Hamonic happens this summer or sooner potentially in a larger deal than one for one.

Not sure if the Jets want to keep Ladd and Buff now could be a good time to sell high at the deadline and keep building for the next year where they have good young players developing.


If the Flames are watching the Sens I wonder who they would be after?

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I'm sorry, but Andrew Ladd is not worth $7M a year. He's worth about $4M max IMO. Trouba has regressed since his first year. I would try to bridge him. Byfuglien, I'd trade him on the deadline. Some team is going to overpay him with term, and they're going to regret it.

4 million max? That would be an absolute steal.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I get the feeling that Trouba is pulling a Hamilton in Winnipeg. He is demanding a ridiculous contract hoping they trade him. I think Trouba for Hamonic happens this summer or sooner potentially in a larger deal than one for one.

Not sure if the Jets want to keep Ladd and Buff now could be a good time to sell high at the deadline and keep building for the next year where they have good young players developing.


If the Flames are watching the Sens I wonder who they would be after?

Except for the fact that Hamilton didn't do that

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...361904251.html

Kind of a conundrum for the Jets in that it's a lot of money to keep together a team that really has never taken that next step.