2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

6 million for October 2018 through September 2021 Kadri is an overpayment though.

If you go back the last 6 season from 2016/17 on he’s worth $6 mil easily

Back to back 32 goal seasons the first 2 seasons

Worst season was a shortened season pace was 47 points

Most years 50 point guy at least

87 points last season

40 points in 45 playoff games

1 season stands out but but most years he’s a high 50 point player with 30ish goals. The 87 point season he had 29 points on the pp which is up from 9 the year before. Maybe increased opportunity was part of his big season?

[Ashasx]

I'm not sure everyone realizes haw hard most players fall after 32. Kadri might be one of the few exceptions, but the odds are not in his favour

[dissentowner]

I still hope we pass on Kadri. Save those dollars for something better in the next free agent crop.

[Flamesfan05]

I wouldn’t sign Kadri more than 3 yrs unless it’s under 6M

[dammage79]

Maybe tree should trade for Tarasenko.

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Tarasenko

Thats....that's...beautiful.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I still hope we pass on Kadri. Save those dollars for something better in the next free agent crop.

Who are the potentials for the next crop?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by FBI

Who are the potentials for the next crop?

At a quick glance it appears to be pretty much the entire league: https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-age...trending-pages

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I still hope we pass on Kadri. Save those dollars for something better in the next free agent crop.

But then we miss out on one year of our big 2-3 years window to win now.

Have to admit, having our center depth as Lindholm/Kadri/Backlund and Monahan/Ruzika looks top to me.

[Sec214]

No to Kadri. You'll regret it.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

At a quick glance it appears to be pretty much the entire league: https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-age...trending-pages

Always looks like this the year before

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

At a quick glance it appears to be pretty much the entire league: https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/free-age...trending-pages

Awesome. I'll take one Nathan MacKinnon please.

[Vinny01]

In some ways Kadri has a bit of a James Neal feel in the sense on paper right now it really makes sense to add another top 6 to the lineup. If it is going to be 5-7 years I would rather they hold off and see if Monahan can bounce back or Ruzicka takes a step.

I will be excited if they Kadri on anything 4 years or less under $8M AAV.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by cral12

3 x 7 mil...sign this now, you will hmmmmmh

https://twitter.com/user/status/1553475538324529152

Seems like a bit of a dumb model if it's trying to work on comparables with so few to use.

Before this season Kadri/Strome/Trocheck were all right in the same range, with the latter 2 having better recent stats (both a touch below ppg previous season).

Strome and Trocheck just turned 29 (exact same birthday in fact)
Kadri will turn 32 in October. So nearly 3 years different.

IMO FMV is probably around:
7x4.75M
6x5M
5x5.25M

Originally Posted by FBI

Who are the potentials for the next crop?

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/a...ts-season=2022

Most of these guys will extend early. I could see more chance that some of these will be available:\
Pastrnak
ROR and/or Tarasenko
JT Miller and/or Horvat
P Kane
Toews

Interesting that a few teams have 2 key guys pending. I think Miller would be crazy to not go for an extension ASAP, though he's pretty much in Hube's situation without any trade control at all. I think both guys might have as much trade value to some teams as a pure rental vs. other teams who'd be more focused on extending them.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Maybe tree should trade for Tarasenko.

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Tarasenko

Thats....that's...beautiful.

They thought he could be a main piece in the Tkachuk trade so I doubt they are just giving him away.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I wouldn’t sign Kadri more than 3 yrs unless it’s under 6M

I’d give Kadri 3x7 or 5x5

[powderjunkie]

double

[browna]

My guess is Kadri still wants to end his career with the Leafs and in Toronto, and is trying to figure out that as part of things here and now, while of course maximizing personal wealth at the same time. Stanley Cup is done so it's time for money.

2 to 3 years in Calgary (or anywhere) is probably fine but would then want 2 more in Toronto while still effective at age of 34 or 35.

If trying to do it in one contract. 5 year $6.0-6.5M, more front end weighed, NMC for entire terms of deal, but a handshake deal for Leafs being the only team NMC exempt at any time.

Or does he take a 3 year deal now worth 7-7.5 with more money up front, hope he is still healthy and productive after those 3y and have the Leafs acquire him for nothing and pay him less, in 3y as a UFA.

Either way, still don't want him. He didn't want to come here before no matter what innocence he pleads (same innocence he pled on his suspension hearings for hits to the head), and most importantly, I don't think he's going to reach the stats to be value for he's paid, nor still bring all the intangibles he has (better or worse) to make him the player is, now after getting paid and winning a cup.

His value and profile is and has been pumped by being the best of the rest remaining and an eastern media that wishes he could still be in Toronto too, we've seen how that has blown up numerous times before (Karlsson).

[dino7c]

Leafs got rid of Kadri for playing too hard in the playoffs...I doubt he wants to go back there

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by browna

My guess is Kadri still wants to end his career with the Leafs and in Toronto, and is trying to figure out that as part of things here and now, while of course maximizing personal wealth at the same time. Stanley Cup is done so it's time for money.

2 to 3 years in Calgary (or anywhere) is probably fine but would then want 2 more in Toronto while still effective at age of 34 or 35.

If trying to do it in one contract. 5 year $6.0-6.5M, more front end weighed, NMC for entire terms of deal, but a handshake deal for Leafs being the only team NMC exempt at any time.

Or does he take a 3 year deal now worth 7-7.5 with more money up front, hope he is still healthy and productive after those 3y and have the Leafs acquire him for nothing and pay him less, in 3y as a UFA.

Either way, still don't want him. He didn't want to come here before no matter what innocence he pleads (same innocence he pled on his suspension hearings for hits to the head), and most importantly, I don't think he's going to reach the stats to be value for he's paid, nor still bring all the intangibles he has (better or worse) to make him the player is, now after getting paid and winning a cup.

His value and profile is and has been pumped by being the best of the rest remaining and an eastern media that wishes he could still be in Toronto too, we've seen how that has blown up numerous times before (Karlsson).

Why do you think he wants to go back to Toronto?

[djsFlames]

I too would pay Kadri 3 x 7.

Good chance he's full value for 2 of those seasons, maybe 3.

If the 7AAV is what gets him here for shorter term, so be it.