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				If the Flames retain 50%, Razzy at $2.275M should be very valuable to a team now. Take a contending team's overpaid and unnecessary vet back to make it even easier and get a 1st and good prospect back. 
			
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The Stars for the 1st in 2027 is no brainer for me. 
 
Dumba back 
 
Should be able to get more than the 1st with Dumba
 
Stars dont have the 2028 1st so they can’t protect it
 
They have Robertson Harley Ras Bourque all getting massive raises right before we get the 1st and Benn bonuses probably push the over cap so they will have cap penalties. I think Bichsel is an RFA too and lots of vets getting older. 
 
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			07-06-2025, 12:51 PM
			
			
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			2027 first isn't nearly enough
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2025, 12:55 PM
			
			
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				2027 first isn't nearly enough 
			
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Actions have consequences and here we are. 
 
We got a 1st for Hanifin. 
 
Maybe we can squeeze a 2nd as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 12:55 PM
			
			
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It’s probably going to look a lot like the Hanifin return now. Sounds like it was almost for Hague and a pick.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 12:57 PM
			
			
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				2027 first isn't nearly enough 
			
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I think we can get more too. But I like the chance of getting a better pick than a late 1st
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:11 PM
			
			
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			Hague + 1st would of been more in line with the Markstrom deal then the Hanifin deal, which would of been fine value, albeit not super sexy. 
 
 
 
 
I do wonder how much CCis set on getting a roster player back. Its been his MO to bring a serviciable player back in every deal
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:15 PM
			
			
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			Carolina was going to offer sheet ole cross eyes before Edmonton signed him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:17 PM
			
			
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Honestly why not especially if it's unprotected. What  are we missing out on in that case if we had not decided to trade him earlier or extended. The Rasmus Andersson's of the world don't return multiple premium assets. No matter what career stage they are in or contract status.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:30 PM
			
			
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				Carolina was going to offer sheet ole cross eyes before Edmonton signed him. 
			
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OR maybe they just did the rest of the league a favour and drove up Edmonton's offer to screw themselves.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:56 PM
			
			
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				Honestly why not especially if it's unprotected. What  are we missing out on in that case if we had not decided to trade him earlier or extended. The Rasmus Andersson's of the world don't return multiple premium assets. No matter what career stage they are in or contract status. 
			
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Unprotected doesn't matter with Dallas, they are not falling off a cliff by 2027. That's a late 1st for Andersson with retention. Pass.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:57 PM
			
			
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				Actions have consequences and here we are.  
 
We got a 1st for Hanifin.  
 
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oh god, you probably said the same about Markstrom
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2025, 01:57 PM
			
			
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				Unprotected doesn't matter with Dallas, they are not falling off a cliff by 2027. That's a late 1st for Andersson with retention. Pass. 
			
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With Gully I think they are about to fall into the WC.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:57 PM
			
			
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			Though I still maintain that the Flames should have traded Andersson last season - team-friendly deal was an asset in itself, especially as cap room was at a premium - this is a seller's market right now.  We have heard through the pundits how some GMs are complaining that there aren't enough players in the market.  I think it works itself out, and I am glad that Conroy is showing patience right now under the pressure. 
 
 
I guess Kadri was 100% fake rumors.  If Kadri gets dealt, I think it will either be at the deadline, or next off-season.  Full NMC right now, but he has a 13 team NTC that kicks in next season.  So either the Flames are out and Kadri is tired of losing, and/or he realizes that by getting traded with a full NMC gives him the power to go exactly where he wants, rather than simply picking his 13 least desirable destinations.  That thought would cross my mind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				Unprotected doesn't matter with Dallas, they are not falling off a cliff by 2027. That's a late 1st for Andersson with retention. Pass. 
			
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And it was also suggested the Flames take Dumba...2027 is not enough and honestly I don't think they want something that far away
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2025, 01:58 PM
			
			
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				With Gully I think they are about to fall into the WC. 
			
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			07-06-2025, 02:00 PM
			
			
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			Unprotected in 2027 won't be top 10, but it may be better than expected with Gulutzan, the potential for a 'bad Robertson trade", or any overreaction by them.  It feels like a team that is being very reactive more than proactive right now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 02:01 PM
			
			
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			If it's Dallas let's just leave it at Robertson 1for 1 for Andersson.  
 
Can't shake SJ off the Andersson trail tho. Just feels like such a natural trading partner in respects to each teams needs and strengths of assets.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2025, 02:02 PM
			
			
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				I mean you said they were BAD last season and they were final 4 so 
			
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Bad enough that the GM fired the coach. The same coach I said should have been fired earlier. But you told us Dallas was prime time just coasting along for the playoffs.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2025, 02:02 PM
			
			
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I doubt it, seems like Oiler propaganda to defend their terrible contract
 
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			07-06-2025, 02:03 PM
			
			
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				Bad enough that the GM fired the coach. The same coach I said should have been fired earlier. But you told us Dallas was prime time just coasting along for the playoffs. 
			
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I mean I was right, they were final four out of 32 teams, they weren't a bad team.  Coach was fired for a goalie pull and the comments that followed about the franchise goalie. By your logic the Canes are a bad team I guess.  It is UNLIKELY a Stars 2027 pick will be in the top 15 or even 20, lets put it that way.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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