2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[activeStick]

Getting Huberdeau was obviously very key for the Flames losing both Johnny and Tkachuk. For me, the top line of Huberdeau-Lindholm-??? will be consistently dangerous and that's what they need to be a top team. The rest of the line up is much the same as last year and you hope that Mangiapane can be more consistent through the year and Coleman can find his scoring touch more often to give the team a bit of a bump to make up for the slight drop in production from the top line compared to last year.

If nothing else of significance is added in the top 6, a Sutter system should see the Flames in a playoff spot and I'd expect a bit of a drop offensively. Other guys could see an uptick in their offensive production in a way that allows the Flames to be an offensive force like last season, but betting on steep improvements from the players on the roster now is a bad bet. Adding a guy you can count on to put points up in the top 6 would really improve the outlook.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes but that’s not enough

How do we know what will be enough scoring or who will score what sitting here at the end of July?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mdubz

he replaces Gaudreau, but who replaces 100+ points that Tkachuk brought?

Points don’t work that way with players on the same line.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by rhino

How do we know what will be enough scoring or who will score what sitting here at the end of July?

Did someone forgot to tell you this is an opinion board?

The team lost 2 top players including its primary offense generator for the last 5 yrs. Even if Huberdeau has a career year, it would be hard to replace 2 guys.

There is nobody in the system that screams ready for top duty. Mangi is the other guy but don’t forget he had a hot start.

[Burning Beard]

When Sutters cup winning teams won it all they were bottom 5 in league scoring in the regular season. Some of ya'll are making it seem like losing Tkachuks points is going to be a huge deal. I think Sutter will have this team focusing even more on checking and being stingy on D, which honestly is probably for the best after they tried river hockey against the Oilers last playoffs.

[Flamesfan05]

Well, neither Huberdeau nor Weegar are Sutter hard checking stingy type.

Hopefully Sutter somehow manages to squeeze that out of basically the same group

[mile]

From Steinberg this morning: https://flamesnation.ca/2022/07/30/w...of-the-season/

There’s been buzz surrounding interest in Lucic at different times this summer, and I don’t believe Calgary would have to “sweeten” a move involving him. Monahan, on the other hand, is a tougher contract to move and the Flames would almost certainly have to include an asset to facilitate a trade.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Well, neither Huberdeau nor Weegar are Sutter hard checking stingy type.

Hopefully Sutter somehow manages to squeeze that out of basically the same group

I saw a chart that showed Weegar was one of the top Dmen at denying zone entries in the playoffs last year. Seems like an important part of checking. Where are you getting that he isnt a good checker?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

I saw a chart that showed Weegar was one of the top Dmen at denying zone entries in the playoffs last year. Seems like an important part of checking. Where are you getting that he isnt a good checker?

He is a great dman that generates both offense and defense. He also makes lots of mistakes. I don’t have problem with him. I just don’t know if he is enough to change the defense with guys like Andersson, Hanifin and Kylington into hard and stingy

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

He is a great dman that generates both offense and defense. He also makes lots of mistakes. I don’t have problem with him. I just don’t know if he is enough to change the defense with guys like Andersson, Hanifin and Kylington into hard and stingy

What about Tanev?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

What about Tanev?

What about him? He has always been there

The defense will be better with Weegar. The question if it is enough to change the team into a hard stringy to compensate for the likely lower scoring if we can’t find more offense

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by mile

From Steinberg this morning: https://flamesnation.ca/2022/07/30/w...of-the-season/

I don’t buy that flames wouldn’t have to add a sweetener for lucic . Every report is some teams would take cap space but it will cost. Yet for somehow the flames would be an exception? There are other routes that teams could take to reach cap floor. Flames don’t have any other route when it comes to lucic. Also if they could have traded lucic without a sweetener the flames probably would have already done it. I love lucic but $5 million for a 4th liner is on no teams desires even with intangibles .

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don’t buy that flames wouldn’t have to add a sweetener for lucic . Every report is some teams would take cap space but it will cost. Yet for somehow the flames would be an exception? There are other routes that teams could take to reach cap floor. Flames don’t have any other route when it comes to lucic. Also if they could have traded lucic without a sweetener the flames probably would have already done it. I love lucic but $5 million for a 4th liner is on no teams desires even with intangibles .

Yeah but 2 favorable factors

- low base salary remained,1M?

- Looch is an awesome dude

[iggyloob12]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don’t buy that flames wouldn’t have to add a sweetener for lucic . Every report is some teams would take cap space but it will cost. Yet for somehow the flames would be an exception? There are other routes that teams could take to reach cap floor. Flames don’t have any other route when it comes to lucic. Also if they could have traded lucic without a sweetener the flames probably would have already done it. I love lucic but $5 million for a 4th liner is on no teams desires even with intangibles .

The difference is Lucic's salary is only $1M, which is appealing for teams that have cap space but need to reach the cap floor. They're buying the cap more than anything, and a player that can hit … when he can catch up to the play.

[Major Major]

Lucic is also still elite at one facet of the game that some teams value. A lot of things would need to line up considering his NTC, but it's not inconceivable that there's a young team out there that wants some Looch. Cap aside, I know I would.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by mile

From Steinberg this morning: https://flamesnation.ca/2022/07/30/w...of-the-season/

Looch is a tough situation for me. He eats up a lot of cap space - agreed. Flames could replace that with someone that contributes much more offensively than Looch does. But Looch is a loved teammate and clear leader in the room - this is fact based on comments from his teammates. You also likely don't get the same from the player you replace him with in these areas, not to mention the intimidation factor and ability to amp the team up with a fight. If they can get a guy like Kadri but it means you have to move a Looch, then fine. It's a huge swing in production and Kadri comes with that grit you lose in moving Looch. Otherwise I'd prefer we keep him.

[Flames_F.T.W]

Guys play bigger when Looch is in the lineup for sure. He's a valuable player and by all counts a huge part of that dressing room. However that cap hit is rough.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

One thing I won't miss is Tcachuk's no look passes to NO ONE.

Totally this.

Love those no look hard rims back to the point on the PP. Those and the lovely waist high cross ice passes to Johnny off the cycle.

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Points don’t work that way with players on the same line.

Sure, but it still 40 goals that another player needs to score to keep pace.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Points don’t work that way with players on the same line.

Exactly, the last time the Flames won the division they had zero hundred point scorers...people are acting like having two is the only way to be successful now.