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Old 08-27-2021, 10:07 AM   #4041
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Reminder: teams need to be fully cap compliant before placing a player on LTIR.
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Reminder: teams need to be fully cap compliant before placing a player on LTIR.

How did Tampa do it? Weren’t they supposed to need to get rid of a bunch of guys last offseason in order to get under the cap but, instead, kucherov went on LTIR so they didn’t have to?


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Flames have $3 mill in cap space. Not sure how they will fit Eichel unless Buffalo takes back serious cap, which I don't think they want to do.
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Old 08-27-2021, 10:37 AM   #4045
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Tampa waived Tyler Johnson and Luke Schenn and placed them on the taxi squad for the roster deadline, then moved them onto the NHL roster once Kucherov was placed on LTIR.
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Reminder: teams need to be fully cap compliant before placing a player on LTIR.
Not true, I don’t remember the exact details but last year Hart Levine of puckpedia was on Oilers now explaining different scenarios how Klefbom ltir would work and one scenario was having him on LTIR before the season started. There were some drawbacks to doing it that way but it was possible.

I’ll try and find it.

I think it’s this one

https://omny.fm/shows/oilers-now-wit...dia-12-22-2020

He explains it around 7:00 in that link

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So, for argument's sake, if they acquired Eichel with Dube being the only contract going the other way, they could simply waive Lucic to jump that hurdle.

current....: $78,425
less Dube.: $76,125
add Eichel: $86,125
less Lucic.: $80,875
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Tampa waived Tyler Johnson and Luke Schenn and placed them on the taxi squad for the roster deadline, then moved them onto the NHL roster once Kucherov was placed on LTIR.

So the flames could do the same thing with Lucic I guess? If a team did pick him up, it creates cap space. If not, it allows the flames to keep the entire roster and put eichel on LTIR.


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So, for argument's sake, if they acquired Eichel with Dube being the only contract going the other way, they could simply waive Lucic to jump that hurdle.

current....: $78,425
less Dube.: $76,125
add Eichel: $86,125
less Lucic.: $80,875
Lucic has a NMC he can’t be waived without his permission and you only save just over 1 mil of cap space.
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So, for argument's sake, if they acquired Eichel with Dube being the only contract going the other way, they could simply waive Lucic to jump that hurdle.

current....: $78,425
less Dube.: $76,125
add Eichel: $86,125
less Lucic.: $80,875
Doesn’t Lucic have a NMC? I can’t see him waiving to be paper sent down unless he absolutely trusts management.

Just have Monahan going the other way for Buffalo to “hold” until the season starts.

What Stang said yah
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Old 08-27-2021, 10:51 AM   #4051
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Tampa waived Tyler Johnson and Luke Schenn and placed them on the taxi squad for the roster deadline, then moved them onto the NHL roster once Kucherov was placed on LTIR.
Do we know if the taxi squad is staying in place for this season yet?

I'd have to think that it is - but I don't see anything online about whether it is or not
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Lucic agreed to be exposed to the expansion draft - I am guessing he would agree to being waved in order to acquire Eichel
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Lucic agreed to be exposed to the expansion draft - I am guessing he would agree to being waved in order to acquire Eichel
Still only saves 1.05 mil not full cap hit
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Flames have $3 mill in cap space. Not sure how they will fit Eichel unless Buffalo takes back serious cap, which I don't think they want to do.
If they take monahan it work’s doesn’t it?
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Brisson reps Crosby, Toews, Kane, Tavares, Kopitar, Seth Jones, etc etc. I'm sure Kevyn Adams intends to not get bullied, but dealing with Brisson is going to be different for them.
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Buffalo is 16.4M below the capfloor without Eichel's caphit and have only Dahlin, Mittelstadt and Jokiharju to sign. They will need to take back salary regardless.
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Still only saves 1.05 mil not full cap hit
It's the same move Tampa used with Johnson.

Sending a player down only saves $1M, yes. But that is not what I am suggesting.

Putting them on waivers removes them from the roster for that day. Next day they are back and Eichel goes on LTIR.
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If they take monahan it work’s doesn’t it?
IF they take Monahan. Not sure that's a player they'd want.
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It's the same move Tampa used with Johnson.

Sending a player down only saves $1M, yes. But that is not what I am suggesting.

Putting them on waivers removes them from the roster for that day. Next day they are back and Eichel goes on LTIR.
Don’t think it works like that
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It's the same move Tampa used with Johnson.

Sending a player down only saves $1M, yes. But that is not what I am suggesting.

Putting them on waivers removes them from the roster for that day. Next day they are back and Eichel goes on LTIR.
Weren't they using the Covid taxi squad?
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