Do we have a thread on SAG-AFTRA strike talk/issues, and the future of tv/streaming/entertainment going forward? If not, do we need one?
I don't really have much to contribute to it but am interested in following this topic.
I've been meaning to discuss it.
First off, #### Bill Maher. Second, he can rot in a vat of pig ####. That's all I got.
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“What I find objectionable about the philosophy of the strike [is] it seems to be, they have really morphed a long way from 2007’s strike, where they kind of believe that you’re owed a living as a writer, and you’re not. This is show business. This is the make-or-miss league.”
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“I’m not saying they don’t have points,” Maher added, agreeing that streaming platforms should be reporting viewing data.
“I feel for my writers. I love my writers. I’m one of my writers. But there’s a big other side to it,” he said. “And a lot of people are being hurt besides them — a lot of people who don’t make as much money as them in this bipartisan world we have where you’re just in one camp or the other, there’s no in between.”
He continued: “You’re either for the strike like they’re #####ing Che Guevara out there, you know, like, this is Cesar Chavez’s lettuce picking strike — or you’re with Trump. There’s no difference — there’s only two camps. And it’s much more complicated than that.”
I haven't listened to the podcast, but I am assuming this is what you're referring to.
I think the streaming platforms should absolutely be profit sharing more, and that the corporate salaries at the top are beyond crazy and are symptomatic of the widening gap between the super wealthy and the people actually doing the labor.
This is an issue that harkens back to unending copywrite. Nobody would be worried about residuals if this stuff wasn't worth anything after 10 or 20 years. The model would be that a studio would know they could make money back over a set number of years, and then they'd pay everyone appropriately for the job at the time. No residuals or anything. You write an episode? You get your $2 grand or whatever. Same for actors and everyone else.
I don't get why artists and their families collect money decades after the artist's death. How many here get payed for work they did 20 years ago? Still making money off that 5 gallons of gas granpappy sold? I'm guessing very few. So why do these creative arts generate revenue this way(and only modern ones)? It's bizarre, and also all Disney's fault.
This is an issue that harkens back to unending copywrite. Nobody would be worried about residuals if this stuff wasn't worth anything after 10 or 20 years. The model would be that a studio would know they could make money back over a set number of years, and then they'd pay everyone appropriately for the job at the time. No residuals or anything. You write an episode? You get your $2 grand or whatever. Same for actors and everyone else.
I don't get why artists and their families collect money decades after the artist's death. How many here get payed for work they did 20 years ago? Still making money off that 5 gallons of gas granpappy sold? I'm guessing very few. So why do these creative arts generate revenue this way(and only modern ones)? It's bizarre, and also all Disney's fault.
Because works continue to generate revenue. You cant copy granpappy's initial 5 gal of gas and sell it to others. Why wouldnt creators continue to profit of off a product that they created and is re-sold and used to generate revenue for the buyer?
Mentioned it earlier, but Minx season 2 just wrapped up, and one of the better seasons of a show I've watched in a while. I have no idea who's watching it on the very obscure Starz streaming network, but the production values were right up there with high budget hbo/netflix shows and great 70s cars and music. Hopefully it somehow finds an audience and gets another season.
Because works continue to generate revenue. You cant copy granpappy's initial 5 gal of gas and sell it to others. Why wouldnt creators continue to profit of off a product that they created and is re-sold and used to generate revenue for the buyer?
That's the point, they don't have to. We just artificially made rules that say they can. If protection expired after 10 or 20 years, then the work enters public domain, and the only charging these companies could do would be a pittance for say, streaming it.
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Mentioned it earlier, but Minx season 2 just wrapped up, and one of the better seasons of a show I've watched in a while. I have no idea who's watching it on the very obscure Starz streaming network, but the production values were right up there with high budget hbo/netflix shows and great 70s cars and music. Hopefully it somehow finds an audience and gets another season.
We haven't finished it yet, but yes, it is a great show. It's on Crave so not too hard to find. I always let the credits play out because the music is so good.
Mentioned it earlier, but Minx season 2 just wrapped up, and one of the better seasons of a show I've watched in a while. I have no idea who's watching it on the very obscure Starz streaming network, but the production values were right up there with high budget hbo/netflix shows and great 70s cars and music. Hopefully it somehow finds an audience and gets another season.
Thanks for this. Loved the first season I didn't know a 2nd had dropped.
I said it a while back, but I finished 'One Piece' on Netflix.
I know zilch about the source material, characters, etc. It just looked kind of cool.
It was not 'kind of cool.' That was 'stupid good.' Seriously. I highly recommend. That was a lot of fun, with good acting, great production value, I really enjoyed it.
Probably an 8.5/10 just for pure enjoyment of a random show that you might know nothing about.
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Is Mr. Inbetween streaming anywhere? It keeps coming up on my YouTube, and at first I thought it was just one of those YouTube sketches of "how to handle things properly" or whatever. Took me awhile to realize it was an actual show lol.
I wouldn't mind giving it a go.
I think the last season is only available for purchase on AppleTV for whatever reason. Unless something has changed.
Final season of Top Boy blew ass. Like GoT final season disjointed. Maybe one, two good scenes but outside of that it was like every character forgot who they were or the writers had never seen a previous season. Ah well overall still a good show between summmerhouse and the first couple Netflix seasons.
