Flames 2013 Draft Discussion

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Forgot that the Flames traded their own fifth last year for Wideman's negotiating rights.

For a while I thought they had two fifth round picks.

For anyone wondering, here is a break down of the Flames picks in this draft:


1. 1st Round Flames (6th Overall)
2. 1st Round Blues (19th-22nd Overall) **Aquired in Bouwmeester trade
3. 1st Round Penguins (25th-30th Overall) **Acquired in Iginla trade
4. 3rd Round Flames (67th Overall)
5. 4th Round Flames (97th Overall)
6. 5th Round Blue Jackets (135th Overall) **Acquired in Comeau trade
7. 6th Round Flames (157th Overall)
8. 7th Round Flames (187th Overall)
9. 7th Round Senators (198th-211th Overall) **Acquired from Chicago in Karlsson trade

Plus where the missing picks went:

#1 - Flames 2013 2nd Round Pick - Included in the Michael Cammalleri, Karri Ramo for Rene Bourque, Patrick Holland, 2012 5th Round Pick (Ryan Culkin) trade with Montreal.

#2 - Flames 2013 5th Round Pick - Included in the Jordan Henry for RIGHTS to UFA Dennis Wideman trade with Washington.


Nine picks. Can't wait.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

ISS May Rankings... I'd think that the actual top 5 will play out similarly to this. Hopefully, this means Calgary can land the trio of Monahan, Zykov and Heatherington with their three picks. I'd be pretty content with that result.

Lazar 12th?, Domi 25th? and no Klimchuk in the first round?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by T@T

Lazar 12th?, Domi 25th? and no Klimchuk in the first round?

I would be ecstatic of the Flames could land Domi with the Penguins pick but IMO he gets picked in the top 15. Lazar has been projected in the range of 12 for a long time now.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I would be ecstatic of the Flames could land Domi with the Penguins pick but IMO he gets picked in the top 15. Lazar has been projected in the range of 12 for a long time now.

Link? I haven't seen a list with him in the top 20

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I take it that your ignoring of the other players I rated as gambles, you now agree were gambles.

Not at all, Chucko is just the most debatable of them, I co sider the others lack of gambleness to be self-evident.

[Max Cow Disease]

I personally wouldn't mind if Feaster nabbed Erie Otters LW Stephen Harper with one of our later picks. From reports, he was firmly on the right wing when he was younger but has gradually sort of drifted over to the left side.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by T@T

Link? I haven't seen a list with him in the top 20

This is off the top of my head but THN has him at 11 and ESPN (scout Grant Sonier) has him at 12 which are in line with the ISS list. I'm sure there's more but I can't do that much research at work at the moment. It's Domi that I have seen all around from just out of the top 10 to bottom 1/3 of the 1st round.

[Commandant]

Samuel Morin, a giant defenceman for the Rimouski Oceanic is #36

http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/05/...er-profile-36/

[albertGQ]

So which team received a compensatory pick in order for our third round to drop from 96th to 97th?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So which team received a compensatory pick in order for our third round to drop from 96th to 97th?

Winnipeg Jets @ 59th overall (2nd round)

[loob job]

i fooled around with a projected second round picks mom when i was in high school (we are close to the same age.......we went to the same high school, lol. Maybe i should have stuck with her, lol.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Winnipeg Jets @ 59th overall (2nd round)

Do you know why they received this pick?

Unsigned first rounder?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Do you know why they received this pick?

Unsigned first rounder?

For failure to sign 2008 first round pick Daultan Leveille

[handgroen]

Say there was some dream scenario where we acquired the edmonton pick @ 7
would drafting 6th and 7th change your view on who the flames should select? would nurse or nichuskin suddenly look more attractive or is it still BPA all the way? or do you try to get a D as well?
who would you guys take?
for me it would be Nurse, and Monohan if we had both
where as if we just chose once it would be lindholm.
big physical athletic d and a big bodied shutdown centre would be good insurance that the franchise would turn it around a few years from now.
if it's just 6 you go with the BPA

[PlayfulGenius]

I'd be tempted to take Londholm and Monahan with 6 and 7... That would be exciting... Then take either Horvat, Domi or Lazar with the STL pick, if one is left... Hopefully the C position wouldn't be an issue moving forward

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Commandant

Samuel Morin, a giant defenceman for the Rimouski Oceanic is #36

http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/05/...er-profile-36/

I already wanted the Flames to pick this kid up. Now a part of me thinks we may need to use the Blues pick to get him. If we can get him with the Pens pick, that would be amazing.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by T@T

Link? I haven't seen a list with him in the top 20

The Hockey News Draft Preview has Lazar at #9.

I think most teams will have the same players in their top 7 or so. But after that I think you'll see big differences of opinion with teams having completely different lists from 8th through the second round.

We see this difference of opinion if you look at a bunch of different scouting lists (Bob Mackenize, Craig Button, ISS, THN, FC, etc).

There is no consensus outside of who the top 5-7 or so prospects should be.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

^ I think there will be many surprises after the top 7 or so. It makes the St. Lou/Pitt picks so intriguing! Lazar is an excellent example of a guy who could be gone before St. Lou, but it wouldn't shock me if he was available. Horvat is another guy all over the map, as are Gauthier, Mantha, Rychel, Morrissey, Theodore, etc. etc. They can't be all gone in the 15-18 range!

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Not at all, Chucko is just the most debatable of them, I co sider the others lack of gambleness to be self-evident.

What you mean is, you have no argument.

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

^ I think there will be many surprises after the top 7 or so. It makes the St. Lou/Pitt picks so intriguing! Lazar is an excellent example of a guy who could be gone before St. Lou, but it wouldn't shock me if he was available. Horvat is another guy all over the map, as are Gauthier, Mantha, Rychel, Morrissey, Theodore, etc. etc. They can't be all gone in the 15-18 range!

That's the main reason I'd prefer to hang onto the St.Louis/Pitts picks instead of trying to package them to move into that 10-15 range. I think there are enough quality guys that will still be available at that 25-30 range.