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				The Flames are only one season removed from Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk... 
 
 
 
But I'm with you. Konecny would be a great addition to the team 
			
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Technically, Tkachuk was playing on his off-wing, but he is a good enough player that he can be equally effective on either side.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2023, 04:08 PM
			
			
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				Noah straight across seems fair for both parties? 
			
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Is Philly looking for a prime aged d-man right now? Aren't they trying to move one out? Isn't Philly rebuilding? Their forward corps minus Konecny is pretty horrendous. 
 
A third team involved? Toronto?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:11 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  FlamesAddiction
					 
				 
				Technically, Tkachuk was playing on his off-wing, but he is a good enough player that he can be equally effective on either side. 
			
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Having Tkachuk on his off wing was a major issue in the playoffs. It made matchups against that line much easier in the playoffs. You could hem in Gaudreau physically. Then, Tkachuk's ability to block the puck with his body was limited as he crashed the net from the right side. Tkachuk was also less able to pull off wrap around plays.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:22 PM
			
			
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			07-06-2023, 04:36 PM
			
			
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Anything over the 3rd round pick they paid to get him is a win IMO. Don’t overthink it, Craig.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:42 PM
			
			
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				Anything over the 3rd round pick they paid to get him is a win IMO. Don’t overthink it, Craig. 
			
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I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best. 
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:45 PM
			
			
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				I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best. 
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take. 
			
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There's really no need to trade him unless they need the cap space.  Wolf is free to move up and down because of his waiver exemption.  So it's actually better to let Vladar sit on the bench as a backup and have Wolf play a semi full schedule in the A and then 10-15 games with the Flames when they can squeeze him oin.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:47 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best. 
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take. 
			
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Draft picks are beans, better to take a reclamation project or a player with some upside in return.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 04:58 PM
			
			
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			Picks are like money, you can use them to trade for players 
 
 
It’s not that whether Wolf is ready but also can they trust Markstrom  
 
Apparently they are not sure on both if they are not trading Vladar
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:00 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				I suspect they are being offered 3rd round pick at best. 
Which if they think Wolf is ready, I would take. 
			
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I would take a third too, given what the market appears to be.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:20 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  theslymonkey
					 
				 
				There's really no need to trade him unless they need the cap space.  Wolf is free to move up and down because of his waiver exemption.  So it's actually better to let Vladar sit on the bench as a backup and have Wolf play a semi full schedule in the A and then 10-15 games with the Flames when they can squeeze him oin. 
			
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That’s a good point. I think Craig also mentioned he doesn’t want Wolf moving up and playing once a month. This way he can keep playing big minutes in AHL and stick his toe into the NHL gradually.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:40 PM
			
			
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			Do we even have enough cap space to activate Kylington and ice a team, or does someone absolutely need to be traded?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:44 PM
			
			
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			Was he not counted against the cap last year?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2023, 05:45 PM
			
			
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			As of right now with close to minimum contract roster fillers they would be fine to ice a team with Kylington.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:45 PM
			
			
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				Was he not counted against the cap last year? 
			
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He was.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2023, 05:45 PM
			
			
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				Do we even have enough cap space to activate Kylington and ice a team, or does someone absolutely need to be traded? 
			
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Activating Kylington, sending Oesterle to the minors, bringing up Pelletier/Coronato/Duehr leaves the Flames with 711k in cap space and only Dennis Gilbert as a scratch. Waive Vladar and call up Wolf and the Flames get another few hundred K (1.05 mil). 
 
It’s tight.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2023, 05:47 PM
			
			
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			Still want Konecny on this team, and hopefully they can use Hanifin as the way to get him. 
 
It makes too much sense. 
 
Big hole at top line RW 
The guy lives here in the off season 
Philly is rebuilding 
Hanifin wants out anyways 
 
Konecny > Toffoli 
Plus with Sharangovich, forward group starts to look a lot better IMO
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2023, 05:52 PM
			
			
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			07-06-2023, 06:09 PM
			
			
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			The Flames aren’t gonna get Konecny. The Flyers are in tear down mode and are gonna want futures for him. The Flames aren’t in a position to be trading futures
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-06-2023, 06:09 PM
			
			
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				Tkachuk and Gaudreau are both left shooting LWs. 
			
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Ehhh seems kind of like arguing semantics. If a player can play RW and score 50 goals and 100 points, they’re a top line RW.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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