Anonymous Poll: Should homosexuals be allowed to get married?

[mikey_the_redneck]

The numbers show that gays are not marriage minded. Basically, we made a big debate over virtually nothing. Such a small sliver of the population caused quite a big stir. Thats what happens when you have a left-influenced mass-media.

Common law policy could have been changed to include same-sex couples, and that would have more accurately reflected their lifestyle better anyways, while not undermining traditional marriage, which to me is a hetero contract to create and raise a family.

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source...VXlwH9GL-t-x_Q

Gays don't want marriage, they want a wedding.

I'm a live and let live person, so don't label me a hateful bigot because I define marriage differently than you.

[MRCboicgy]

If I ever meet the right guy, all of CP is inviting to my marriage ceremony

Gifts aren't necessary, unless you voted no in the poll.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

Homophobic nonsense. Statements such as these are a much better indication of who shouldn't be raising children in my opinion. I think gay people are generally more wise and compassionate compared to the greater population due to what they've been through. Which probably makes them better parents on average.

This is mass-media influence at work here.

The mantra is this: Gays are better people than you and if you disagree than you must hate gays.

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I believe if a child has loving parents, no matter the combination of sexes, who raise them in a safe loving home... no... they won't give a crap. It will be bigotry from the outside world that makes them question it.

At some point in time the kids are going to get old enough to fully comprehend the situation and unless they turn out homosexual as well, I have a hard time believing that there wont be some of them that are pretty upset about it. I know I wouldn't have wanted it for my self at all. Imagine how bad one of these kids would get bullied.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

This is mass-media influence at work here.

The mantra is this: Gays are better people than you and if you disagree than you must hate gays.

'Gays' are people just like the Jesus loving flag waving patriots you cherish that used to write for Alberta Report.

Originally Posted by jhunt223

Imagine how bad one of these kids would get bullied.

Probably a lot of the bullies father is mikey_the_redneck. But hopefully his children will be corrupted by the mass liberal media agenda trying to brainwash us all.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by jhunt223

Imagine how bad one of these kids would get bullied.

You know who else gets bullied sometimes? Immigrants. Therefore, we shouldn't let immigrants have children.

Air. Tight. Logic.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by jhunt223

At some point in time the kids are going to get old enough to fully comprehend the situation and unless they turn out homosexual as well, I have a hard time believing that there wont be some of them that are pretty upset about it. I know I wouldn't have wanted it for my self at all. Imagine how bad one of these kids would get bullied.

Yeah, great point. Instead we should leave these kids in an adoption agency and wallow around foster care until they are 18. I'm sure it's better for them then to have two loving supportive parents.

Let's not let gays adopt because their kids might get bullied?

Well ugly fat parents shouldn't have kids either because their chubby Australian kid might get bullied too. Kids are cruel, teens especially. They will pick on someone for anything, let's not be stupid.

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by jammies

You know who else gets bullied sometimes? Immigrants. Therefore, we shouldn't let immigrants have children.

Air. Tight. Logic.

The bullying immigrants, fat girls and nerds go through would seem like a day at Calaway Park compared to what a male child with two male parents would go through. But, that's not the only reason i think its a bad idea.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

'Gays' are people just like the Jesus loving flag waving patriots you cherish that used to write for Alberta Report.

First off, I would hardly call myself "Jesus loving"...

...and now I'm a "bully" for having a different opinion on marriage, wow...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by jhunt223

The bullying immigrants, fat girls and nerds go through would seem like a day at Calaway Park compared to what a male child with two male parents would go through. But, that's not the only reason i think its a bad idea.

No, it really isn't.

I think you underestimate how people (especially teens) ideas towards this have changed. I've been out of High School for ten years now, and when talking to a couple of my cousins who are in that age range, one of them self described bi-sexual (coolest girl ever by the way, but that's another story) it's amazing how minds have changed in that age group towards gay people. They are way more accepting then even ten years ago.

When I was in High School we had a couple people who everyone pretty much knew was gay, but they didn't come out, out of fear. Now, it's really not a big deal at all. Yeah, I'm sure they get teased, I'm sure people have teased my cousin, but teens will tease people for anything... I don't think having gay parents will be any worse then being a fat kid who can't keep up in gym class.

People are becoming way more open to the idea that two consenting adults should be able to do what they please, love who they please, and have the lifestyle they please. The old way of "It's Adam and Even, not Adam and Steve yuk yuk!" is quickly going out the window.

It's a good thing.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

Homophobic nonsense. Statements such as these are a much better indication of who shouldn't be raising children in my opinion. I think gay people are generally more wise and compassionate compared to the greater population due to what they've been through. Which probably makes them better parents on average.

Yes the term "homophobic" is nonsense. It is just an intellectually dishonest way to disregard someones position without weighing the merits of what they say.

Do you have some statistical evidence that would show that gay people are more wise and compassionate?

Judging by the infection rates for HIV in gay men, they don't appear to be the most responsible members of our society. Perhaps any adoption board should investigate a gay couple's medical history to determine how responsible they are.

Also, shouldn't an adoption agency consider the difficulty an adopted child of a homosexual couple might have being accepted by their peers. You talk about what gay's "have been through" yet don't consider the fact that by giving custody of a child into their care you are possibly signing that child up for the same trials.

Single adults are not given equal opportunities to adopt with heterosexual couples because our government sees that the two parents home is a prefered climate for raising a child. I would suggest that a home with both a mother and a father is a prefered climate to raising a child in than one lacking either a mother or father.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by jhunt223

The bullying immigrants, fat girls and nerds go through would seem like a day at Calaway Park compared to what a male child with two male parents would go through. But, that's not the only reason i think its a bad idea.

I doubt this very, very much. Kids look for OBVIOUS differences with their peers long before worrying about what each other's parents are like.

[puckluck]

Damn that was a pretty old bump.

Looks like 12 people voted no and 12 people voted yes since the bump if I'm not mistaken.

[Flame Of Liberty]

I love how progressive you guys are. Racing towards a bright progressive future where everyone will think the way you do.

But I wish you stopped for a while a thought about people who'll never be comfortable with what you are trying to ram down their throats (bad joke). About kids that simply will not be comfortable and happy with the situation they've been put in by you.

You can all laugh at rednecks but there will be kids who will feel that the situation they've been put in (in the name of progress) simply does NOT feel natural to them. They wont hate gays, they wont hate blacks, they will simply feel that total strangers decided that because they think that gay adoption is okay, the adopted kid must live with it and be comfortable with it, because if he doesn't he's just a backwater redneck. HIS life be damned...you know...progress...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I love how progressive you guys are. Racing towards a bright progressive future where everyone will think they way you do.

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[jhunt223]

I disagree and saw pretty much the opposite happen at my school growing up. I think if a kids old enough to understand what homosexuality is and he's in some half way home (whatever they're called) then its fine to put him/her into a home with a gay couple with his/her consent. I don't like it when the kids just a baby and has no say in the matter though. My only real reasoning is that i don't think that there's any way that i would have felt comfortable with being placed into that situation and i know it would have messed my head up pretty well.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

First off, I would hardly call myself "Jesus loving"...

...and now I'm a "bully" for having a different opinion on marriage, wow...

You're right, I was brushing very broad strokes. But really, it's no different from what you tend to do.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

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I'm sorry but that's what it is. If you aren't embracing the latest "progressive" liberal flavour-of-the-month agenda, you're just a redneck holding the society back (from where you think it should be)...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by jhunt223

I disagree and saw pretty much the opposite happen at my school growing up. I think if a kids old enough to understand what homosexuality is and he's in some half way home (whatever they're called) then its fine to put him/her into a home with a gay couple with his/her consent. I don't like it when the kids just a baby and has no say in the matter though. My only real reasoning is that i don't think that there's any way that i would have felt comfortable with being placed into that situation and i know it would have messed my head up pretty well.

When were you last in High School?

[jhunt223]

Originally Posted by jammies

I doubt this very, very much. Kids look for OBVIOUS differences with their peers long before worrying about what each other's parents are like.

Maybe when they're at a really young age,but, by about Jr High the cat would be out of the bag and the onslaught would commence. Maybe they get lucky and aren't at a school like the one i grew up going to, maybe not. The biggest thing for me is still the personal discomfort that it would cause alot of people.