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Old 06-19-2009, 07:54 AM   #381
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Deception? Is that wrong? So if deception is important to you then perhaps honesty is important as well. Locke says it is okay to rape as long as you say surprise first... is that wrong? Was he serious? I have no clue if the OP's of the links I posted are making money or are serious, however I have many posts of op's being "hopefully dishonest" about their posts. If what they say ends up happening in real life, would it make it different? Or are they responsible? Is Locke his real name? Or is that name a fiction that can not be tried in law?
Either you do know the difference and you're just being obtuse, or you really don't know how to operate within society and you need help.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:27 AM   #382
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Instead of chipping, I'm all for injecting micro bombs into every person on the planet, then issuing everyone a remote control that detonates one random bomb anywhere on the planet, and the remote can only be one. So in a fit of rage you can push that button and there's a chance that it actually might detonate the person pissing you off the most, but there's also a chance that it zoinks a family member or a random baby in Russia.

Just think of the possibilities for keeping society in line . . . or exterminating it.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:36 AM   #383
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Link please.

Babies get RFID chips attached to them in maternity wards to prevent babies getting mixed up.

If you are claiming people are getting their kids injected with RFID chips, you'll have to support that claim. I know a few adults that have done it.

You do realize that RFID chips aren't magic right? They're short range and low power, they can't track you everywhere you go every moment just because you have a tiny chip.

It gets queried by a reader and replies. The reader has to be connected to a database to be able to correlate the ID in the chip with other information about you. So if you have an RFID chip to pay for your gas, the government would have to have access to that private company database. To every private company database that used the tags.

Are you worried about being tracked by your credit card #? Because tracking by RFID would be the exact same kind of feat. Better give up your credit cards now because the government is tracking you by them.

Defeating an RFID chip is also very easy; place it in a faraday cage. They make wallets that do this. Done, chip is now inaccessible.

EDIT: Lol @ requiring people to get chipped.. in the right hand or the forehead maybe? Mark of the beast? Even in the UK where they're far far worse with respect to rights and privacy they don't do that.
It is the potential of what being chipped results in that scares me. No thanks. Here is a short TIME article.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...118348,00.html
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:45 AM   #384
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Instead of chipping, I'm all for injecting micro bombs into every person on the planet, then issuing everyone a remote control that detonates one random bomb anywhere on the planet, and the remote can only be one. So in a fit of rage you can push that button and there's a chance that it actually might detonate the person pissing you off the most, but there's also a chance that it zoinks a family member or a random baby in Russia.

Just think of the possibilities for keeping society in line . . . or exterminating it.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:03 AM   #385
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If you are seriously concerned about being tracked than you better give up the internet, your phone, credit cards, etc... because the gov't is more than capable of tracking you if you use those objects right now.
True. The government can use your cell signal to find out where you are at any given time.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:16 AM   #386
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So no evidence of babies being injected with RFID chips then as you claimed?

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It is the potential of what being chipped results in that scares me. No thanks. Here is a short TIME article.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...118348,00.html
So don't get one then.
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Locke says it is okay to rape as long as you say surprise first... is that wrong? Was he serious?
That pretty much sums the thread up.
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True. The government can use your cell signal to find out where you are at any given time.
I dont have a cell....................mwahaha!
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So no evidence of babies being injected with RFID chips then as you claimed?



So don't get one then.
Okay, I am trying to find it..............I remember the mother on CNN, she had long black hair. I'll keep looking. As for more RFID info.............turns out it can get dangerous, cloning chips can lead to identity loss.
http://infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid...e_clonable.htm

Doctor alleges plans to chip all new-borns.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/..._us_europe.htm
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I suspect this whole debate about the government tracking and spying on us is pretty much pointless. What with surveillance cameras, cell phones, chipped credit/debit cards, internet tracking, this battle was won and lost before we even know it was going on. Basically there's two choices ... trust Big Brother or go off grid. Unless a person is engaged in illegal or treasonous endeavours, I doubt Big Brother really gives a damn, just as long we keep buying designer jeans, lattes and maxing out our credit lines.
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Okay, I am trying to find it..............I remember the mother on CNN, she had long black hair. I'll keep looking. As for more RFID info.............turns out it can get dangerous, cloning chips can lead to identity loss.
http://infowars.com/articles/bb/rfid...e_clonable.htm

Doctor alleges plans to chip all new-borns.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/bb/..._us_europe.htm
Google Dr. Kilde, she is a complete wackjob nutcase who travels around talking about mind control and the new world order and other things that are well crazy. This is just proof that not all doctors are smart.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:40 AM   #392
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Here is another take of the opposite side of the spectrum.

http://home.comcast.net/~readingnews/Hidden_Hand.html

Here is a documentary that touches on this a bit. Also goes into some great points, ideas.


http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/kymatica/

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I suspect this whole debate about the government tracking and spying on us is pretty much pointless. What with surveillance cameras, cell phones, chipped credit/debit cards, internet tracking, this battle was won and lost before we even know it was going on. Basically there's two choices ... trust Big Brother or go off grid. Unless a person is engaged in illegal or treasonous endeavours, I doubt Big Brother really gives a damn, just as long we keep buying designer jeans, lattes and maxing out our credit lines.
Yeah well you can leave most of that stuff at home...........you can't with an implanted chip. It has alot of potential rammifications.
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Yeah well you can leave most of that stuff at home...........you can't with an implanted chip. It has alot of potential rammifications.
It all comes down to choice. If, at the time of inception, you choose to apply this technology to you and your family then you will. If you choose not to and go a different path you won't apply it. The only difference is the choice you make will affect your life and how you interact with the herd. Are you fine with unplugging? Start now. This chip is to also carry 1's and 0's which tell you how much money you have. Learn to be less dependent on that.

People are comfortable with today and tomorrow because they are use to it. They like the blanket of control given to them from someone else, a comforter. You can only decide, are going to be governed by the blanket or make your own.
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Google Dr. Kilde, she is a complete wackjob nutcase who travels around talking about mind control and the new world order and other things that are well crazy. This is just proof that not all doctors are smart.
When I grow up I wanna be totally bat insane too.
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I think I'm a pretty creative guy, so I wonder if I should start inventing some conspiracies of my own - I'm sure I could do a better job than the vast majority of these nutjobs. As long as my ideas are "interesting" and "thought-provoking", it doesn't matter if they are true. Or so it seems.

On another note, the Soviets managed to indoctrinate and control hundreds of millions of people using nothing more technologically sophisticated than typewriters, guns, and barbed wire. The idea that technology will be used to impose unconquerable tyranny ignores the human mastery of outthinking systems, for criminals and revolutionaries will always find the weakness of any inequitable power structure in the end - the weakness of the people who populate it and who can be induced to pervert it for the sake of personal gain.

Focusing on the implementation of surveillance or tracking devices as a threat to freedom gets it backwards - it is ideas that create a totalitarian state, not inventions, and the present time is the least censorious era for ideas that has ever existed. Further, this trend continues towards more and more freedom of thought, not less, despite the attempts of repressive states and organizations to reverse it. As communication between individuals becomes more and more simple and less and less expensive, no other scenario is possible - you cannot impose ideas from the top-down onto people that have horizontal access to a limitless number of dissenting opinions. You can certainly try, and even achieve some short-term success, but in the long term totalitarianism is destined for obsolescence in the same way that feudalism or the divine right of kings eventually became irrelevant and unsustainable.
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Okay, I am trying to find it..............I remember the mother on CNN, she had long black hair...
Was it The Octomom?
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:54 PM   #399
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Was it The Octomom?
Alright, trying to figure out your sig.. it's not from the OT is it?

When I google it CP is the first hit lol... I also learned that to select it all I have to select right to left, that's kind of cool.
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Disturbing concepts.


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