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Old 03-30-2025, 09:04 AM   #381
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Jays 3 games in, Lots of issues around pitching, lack of depth could be interesting

"The Blue Jays announced this morning that they’ve selected the contract of left-hander Mason Fluharty. Fellow southpaw Richard Lovelady was designated for assignment to make room for Fluharty on both the 40-man and active rosters".
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Old 03-30-2025, 09:10 AM   #382
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Be more blunt. If this was a bottom 10 salary team you could be excited that they were able to be mediocre in a big dog league without spending.....But they're spending as a big dog and about to lose their only two "stars" from an 8 year old rebuild for nothing, or close to nothing.

This a catastrophic failure in any sense of the word AND you have a top 6 or whatever payroll on top of the complete and utter failure to put a team together,. It's astonishing.

A true case study in absolute failure to a build a sports team through a rebuild. They did literally every thing wrong at every turn.
Their UFA signings have been really good over that time, and trades have been at worse average - since no one we’ve traded has done much

The biggest issue is a complete inability to develop and /or draft prospects . You can only UFA your way into contention for so long until your costs are too high and team too old

This is the stage we are in. Unfortunently teams are usually here after some playoff runs . We won zero games
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Old 03-30-2025, 09:46 AM   #383
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More news

"The Jays announced today that Scherzer is indeed being placed on the 15-day injured list, with the diagnosis of right thumb inflammation. Left-hander Easton Lucas was recalled from Triple-A in a corresponding move. "
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Old 03-30-2025, 10:02 AM   #384
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I'm sure the Orioles will tee off on the hound today too.

I just looked at the schedule and wow they are in for a world.of hurt if they can't get their pitching sorted. The first month almost all playoff contenders.
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Old 03-30-2025, 10:14 AM   #385
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Their UFA signings have been really good over that time, and trades have been at worse average - since no one we’ve traded has done much

The biggest issue is a complete inability to develop and /or draft prospects . You can only UFA your way into contention for so long until your costs are too high and team too old

This is the stage we are in. Unfortunently teams are usually here after some playoff runs . We won zero games
A lot of truth here but one of the problems with the way they have handled UFA signings is that they have half assed going for it. They’ve accumulated a lot of contracts over the years but only signed one or two second tier/bottom of first tier UFAs per off season. As such, they’ve bloated their payroll without being good enough at a single point in time.

If you are going to bloat your payroll, go out and do your spending in one off season. It creates an assessment window. If the team wins, fantastic. If not, you can start selling off pieces to contenders to stock the farm. Even when you are going all in with UFAs, you have to build the farm through drafting and developing.

By slowly accumulating contracts, you aren’t quite good enough to be World Series contenders at any one point. It’s also harder to pull the plug because the window keeps getting extended with hopes that you can “hang around the rim” to get a chance of getting to the Wild Card spot and going on a surprising run.

Also, changing philosophies multiple times isn’t helpful. Going from a team of home run hitters to suddenly being a run prevention team and then to neither creates an incoherent mess of an organization.

Finally, Atkins seems to be incapable of getting past his own arrogance and seems to feed off of alienating fans by making decisions that scream “I’m the smartest person in the room”.

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Old 03-30-2025, 12:22 PM   #386
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Is it me or does the blue alternate uniforms look a darker blue than last year and previous years?

Obviously Nike has some some changes to the names on the back and the materials after last season debacle.
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Old 03-30-2025, 12:31 PM   #387
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Baseball so frustrating sometimes. Line drive by Giminez but straight at the CF of course.
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Old 03-30-2025, 12:33 PM   #388
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And then another line dive right at 1B. That was 2 runs if it's a foot higher
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Old 03-30-2025, 01:53 PM   #389
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Y rod coming in the 8th with a 2 run lead.

Scary
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Old 03-30-2025, 02:20 PM   #390
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A win!

All things considered not a bad series split. Probably could've even won yesterday's game if it wasn't for Lovelady being a total scrub.
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Old 03-30-2025, 04:48 PM   #391
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2-2 is a miracle being out homered 10-3 but there are certainly some positives to build off of
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Old 03-30-2025, 05:16 PM   #392
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Key is the Jays have to stay healthy,
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Baltimore sucks!! Only managed 2 wins in T.O..
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I guess Ross read the forum. Lovelady gone.

He had this thing for Richard's... he was ok at times. Completely lost at others. I personally wanted him dfa couple years ago.
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If Rodriguez can come out of the pen and throw 98 for an inning I think that would be a big help for the Jays.
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75 win team.
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I think there are some promising signs through the first 4 games for sure.

Bichette and Springer are seeing the ball well which is big for this team. Gimenez seems to be looking better offensively than he has for a couple years. Wagner is off to a good start.

If Santander and Guerrero can start to come around then the offense is in okay shape.

In terms of pitching Bassitt and Gausman looked good, Scherzer looked okay before his thumb issue, and Berrios tends to be a slow starter.

If Francis gives them a good start today then I think you're not too worried about the starting pitching.
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