[Rumour] LeBrun: Flames remain interested in Cozens despite trading for Frost

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t know why people are saying he has 3 years left when it is clearly 4 after this year. 4yr $28M

He has value at 4 years $28M too.

What do you imagine Kadri would get as a UFA this summer? I’d wager more than 4/$28M.

[Sandman]

The only thing that’s wrong with Cozens is that he’s currently a Buffalo Sabre, and exists in a losing culture in a sad city while playing under a dinosaur of a coach. Rescue him from that ugly situation, and he’ll flourish. He has everything a top C needs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

He has value at 4 years $28M too.

What do you imagine Kadri would get as a UFA this summer? I’d wager more than 4/$28M.

With the cap increase 100%

[Jason14h]

Sure but UFAs only cost money . So how much extra does a team value acquiring Kadri at

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The only thing that’s wrong with Cozens is that he’s currently a Buffalo Sabre, and exists in a losing culture in a sad city while playing under a dinosaur of a coach. Rescue him from that ugly situation, and he’ll flourish. He has everything a top C needs.

BUF are deflating the value of their asset. I hope they get nothing much for him and he catches fire somewhere else (especially here).

Teams whose strategy is 'tank until we get generational talent' deserve bad outcomes. I hope their decades of futility become a cautionary tale for other GMs.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dino7c

With the cap increase 100%

IDK, it feels like this TDL might be the sell high zenith on Kadri if he would waive. Particularly if COL wants him and you could somehow pry Ritchie out of their system.

But I would not do it for Middlestadt alone like Frank suggested last week.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Sure but UFAs only cost money . So how much extra does a team value acquiring Kadri at

Maybe it’s a 2nd round pick - vs not having Kadri on the books 5-7 years.

At this point, we know how the CBA works - Kadri will either be productive or he’ll be on LTIR.

So the risk for the acquiring team is minimal.

Again, no rush to move him. Pretty sure you’ll be able to at any point in his deal.

[CroCop]

The deal floated around that still makes the most sense to me was Cozens + Byram to Van for Pete.

Those 2(Cozens and Byram)had outstanding history playing for teams in and around that city and have history with one of the Canucks current coaches.

Petterson is a proven elite talent that Buffalo can try and sell their fans on. Based on the saga between he and Miller and his poor performance of last year playoff and this season Vancouver could be compelled to move him now while they still can.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by CroCop

The deal floated around that still makes the most sense to me was Cozens + Byram to Van for Pete.

Those 2(Cozens and Byram)had outstanding history playing for teams in and around that city and have history with one of the Canucks current coaches.

Petterson is a proven elite talent that Buffalo can try and sell their fans on. Based on the saga between he and Miller and his poor performance of last year playoff and this season Vancouver could be compelled to move him now while they still can.

Makes sense for Buffalo but is terrible for Van

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Makes sense for Buffalo but is terrible for Van

Is it? Pettersson is on pace for 57pts over 82 games making $11.6M. He is performing worse than Huberdeau who was often referred to as the worst contract in the league.

He is not far removed from some elite numbers but since he signed his deal he has not come close to living up to it.

Byram is on pace for 44pts and Cozens needs to find a new gear. Lots of risk for both sides but getting harder to make it seem like some kind of steal for Vancouver.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Is it? Pettersson is on pace for 57pts over 82 games making $11.6M. He is performing worse than Huberdeau who was often referred to as the worst contract in the league.

He is not far removed from some elite numbers but since he signed his deal he has not come close to living up to it.

Byram is on pace for 44pts and Cozens needs to find a new gear. Lots of risk for both sides but getting harder to make it seem like some kind of steal for Vancouver.

Vancouver can’t downgrade to Cozens now that they got rid of Miller and defense isn’t really a need for them. I’d sure bank on Petterson bouncing back to a PPG while being responsible defensively versus Cozens figuring out both.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Oops, wrong thread.

[Canada 02]

David Pagnotta says the Sabres don't see the Flames as a trade partner for Cozens

They have also relayed that they won’t move Dylan Cozens to certain teams, as they don’t see a return that fits. I believe, for now, Calgary and Nashville are two of those teams.

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagn...leafs-go-allin

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

David Pagnotta says the Sabres don't see the Flames as a trade partner for Cozens



https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagn...leafs-go-allin

Probably for the best.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Yeah may be for the best. I can see the outcome of Cozens not panning out as a play driving center here but kind of more of what the Flames have already in frost & zary but just marginally better. The Flames might find themselves looking again for a 1C to upgrade on cozens in due time.

Might as well swing for the fences at the draft.

[Doctorfever]

Part of the premise of trading Kadri for Cozens is that one fits into our win window age wise, and the other - not so much.

But I could see the argument that my trade proposal is an overpayment by Calgary.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Part of the premise of trading Kadri for Cozens is that one fits into our win window age wise, and the other - not so much.

But I could see the argument that my trade proposal is an overpayment by Calgary.

Kadri wouldn’t waive anyways

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Is it? Pettersson is on pace for 57pts over 82 games making $11.6M. He is performing worse than Huberdeau who was often referred to as the worst contract in the league.

He is not far removed from some elite numbers but since he signed his deal he has not come close to living up to it.

Byram is on pace for 44pts and Cozens needs to find a new gear. Lots of risk for both sides but getting harder to make it seem like some kind of steal for Vancouver.

Solution is obvious. Pettersson for Huberdeau, 1 for 1. Canucks get rid of the more expensive contract, the player who is currently underperforming more, and the locker room distraction. Flames get the younger player and the premier position. Unfortunately, the Canucks probably want a C back.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

David Pagnotta says the Sabres don't see the Flames as a trade partner for Cozens



https://www.thefourthperiod.com/pagn...leafs-go-allin

That's like Eklund saying anything, Pagnotta doesn't know squat.

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Solution is obvious. Pettersson for Huberdeau, 1 for 1. Canucks get rid of the more expensive contract, the player who is currently underperforming more, and the locker room distraction. Flames get the younger player and the premier position. Unfortunately, the Canucks probably want a C back.

I’d rather have Huberdeau. I think Pettersons work ethic is suspect