[Trade] Rantanen, Hall to CAR. Necas, Drury, 2nd, 4th to COL. CHI ret 50% of Rantanen + 3rd

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

No the 'Hawks only get a 3rd, however, as that 3rd was, originally, their own, it is as if it is the last pick in the 2nd round.



Either way, it is depressing that my team has taken over the place of the late, Coyotes, as the graveyard of cap burials.

Nope, first pick in the 3rd round

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I think Friedman made good points about this. Makar is going to have a hefty price tag. Mackinnon already does. Can you win with 3 guys making big coin. The Avs already are short on depth, they maybe decided they couldn't.

The challenge with Necas though is they only get 1 more year of him. He has been very clear that he's going to go to UFA.

That was when he was in Carolina and had been asking for a trade for years. I don't think that is necessarily true now.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Colorado is still a contender (how underrated is Lehkonen BTW) but I can't see how some would say they're a better team now after this deal, if thats being suggested.

Necas in, Rantanen out.
Drury in.

Not Phaneuf for Stajan and spare parts, but still a head scratcher.

They were losing Rantanen as a UFA, they got Necas for an extra year, and perhaps more.

Better team for this year, that was likely not going to happen and was not the goal. But better next year than they would have been if they simply lost Rantanen for nothing.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

They were losing Rantanen as a UFA, they got Necas for an extra year, and perhaps more.

Better team for this year, that was likely not going to happen and was not the goal. But better next year than they would have been if they simply lost Rantanen for nothing.

Don't forget that they would have cap space if they did lose Raantenen to go find a replacement as a UFA or trade to absorb cap. If Drury was a Flame you would be telling everyone that he's deadweight with negative value nothing burger.

Colorado is still an attractive team so getting players to sign there is not a big issue. They would find a way to use the new cap space to add another higher end player or two.

I think they ultimately decided that they're falling further from being a cup contender than getting closer these past two and a half seasons. They miss the player that Landeskog was a lot and the depth that had. So they're willing to change up the team now thinking that as is with s big three they're no better than last year. If they really thought internally that they had a shot at winning the cup with this roster I don't think they make this deal. So as is they're not a contender in their own eyes and they stand to lose the player. So it is a pragmatic move on their part to do this. Smarter than I initially gave it credit for even if zi think it makes them step back this year.

[Bonded]

Rantanen is doing his best Huberdeau impression. 1 point in 6 games

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Rantanen is doing his best Huberdeau impression. 1 point in 6 games

Crazy. Hes costing himself millions.

[Ped]

2 points, actually. But people need to relax. It's been 6 games. Sometimes it takes time to gel with new linemates, especially when you're used to playing with MacKinnon. Maybe he struggles the rest of the season, maybe he picks it up, but it's far too early to declare anything.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ped

2 points, actually. But people need to relax. It's been 6 games. Sometimes it takes time to gel with new linemates, especially when you're used to playing with MacKinnon. Maybe he struggles the rest of the season, maybe he picks it up, but it's far too early to declare anything.

He will still get paid but it’s a bad look that Necas has 9 points in 8 games. For a guy the priced himself out of Colorado he better pick it up.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by traptor

Crazy. Hes costing himself millions.

Doubtful.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Doubtful.

I don’t think he gets 14 million unless he turns things around.

[Sandman]

Don’t talk that way about future-Flame Rantanen!!!

[Ped]

Good thing Carolina has like 27 games left to see if he can figure it out. People judge trades way too quickly. Is the Frost/Farabee trade a bust because they've combined for 2 goals in 8 games?

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Ped

2 points, actually. But people need to relax. It's been 6 games. Sometimes it takes time to gel with new linemates, especially when you're used to playing with MacKinnon. Maybe he struggles the rest of the season, maybe he picks it up, but it's far too early to declare anything.

Maybe, key is will he resign?

Would not be surprised if he was moved again before the dead-line

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flambers

Maybe, key is will he resign?

Would not be surprised if he was moved again before the dead-line

I think Carolina keeps him for their playoff run either way. They’d get a fraction of what they gave up up to get him if he struggles to produce.

[CFO]

Rantanen- the new Lindholm.

[This post is terrible]

Kypreos was talking about how he thinks Carolina would consider trading him if things don’t get better, not wanting a repeat of Guentzel

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don’t think he gets 14 million unless he turns things around.

Maybe not.

He’s getting $13M no matter what.

So while technically yea, maybe it’s costing him millions, it’s nothing that won’t get made up within a couple years.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Maybe not.

He’s getting $13M no matter what.

So while technically yea, maybe it’s costing him millions, it’s nothing that won’t get made up within a couple years.

I'm not so sure 13x7 is a guarantee for him.
If he has a terrible showing in Carolina i can see GMs having some serious trepiditions about giving him that kind of money/term.

[Ped]

Some might. At least 1 will pay him, though. And it only takes 1.

[FlamesAddiction]

Maybe Rantanen doesn't bounce back, but slow production when joining a new team isn't out of the ordinary.