[Trade] Flames trade Tanev (double retention) to Dallas for 2nd, cond. 3rd, Grushnikov

[Moneyhands23]

I'm just looking at this as 2 2nds for tanev.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Icon

Oh god I hope we don't have to put up with Oesterle. Anyone else from the Wranglers please.

Would it not be Gilbert going into the lineup?

[PaperBagger'14]

Not a great return that’s for sure. No strong prospects or even a first rounder so leaves a lot to be desired for how good Tanev is (at least in the short term). Hopefully Gorbachev can find some Sputnik in his game.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Actually, it would be a terrible thing to let Tanev walk for nothing.

This notion that Conroy is being tested or pushed around is dumb. Trades today aren’t made by a lone GM sitting with his feet on his desk and chewing a cigar. They’re analytical and collaborative, with a whole team of executives and experts crunching numbers and working out valuations. Emotions and macho posturing play little part.

Almost zero part actually. There’s 10 executives with 10 spreadsheets sitting around weighing 5,000 variables. There’s virtually no way that “reputation” or being pushed around come into play in this stuff unless Conroy did something rogue and completely ridiculous. Does it seem like he’s that type of guy?

You take your picks and move on, this is definitely the smart play here. And the thing is, not every trade needs or has to be some grand slam home run either. This isn’t NHL 24 where you can just keep adding widgets of value until a trade is accepted by a computer. Believe it or not, Dallas, too, has executives that understand hockey.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Originally Posted by looooob

for sure there is a player type there, having said that , alot of people drooling over Dallas- they used a 2nd rounder on him


this guy 5pts/44 games , Tanev 9/39 in their first AHL season

My concern is that guys whether teams used a 2nd round pick on him or not, players who project like him almost never make it to the show.

This is what Bader has to say about the prospect. The historical data doesn't predict good things.

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[Icon]

Originally Posted by Dx54

So we NEED a Stars v Canucks West finals and we NEED the Stars to win.

Decent odds imo. A semi-struggling Oettinger this year is undoubtedly over the moon with them adding Tanev. Or if he isn't yet, he will be.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

IMO it’s a pretty meh trade. Really thought tanev would get us a first. A 2nd and b prospect is alright but nothing great considering what other dmen rentals have gone for in the past. At no time did I think we could get Bourque from Dallas as some suggested.

Please read sandman draft profile for this kid, he is really high on him.

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Would it not be Gilbert going into the lineup?

If I was in charge it sure would be, but stranger things have happened.

[Fourteen FTW]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

Please read sandman draft profile for this kid, he is really high on him.

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As was Dallas who took him midway through the second round.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I'm coming around on this trade, but I guess I expected more. Grush hasn't put up any numbers in the years since being drafted, and hasn't progressed- how many D, even defensive D, make the NHL with 12 points in 56 games in their D+1, then 17 points in 65 games in thier D+2 in the CHL?

Tanev had 10 points in his D+1 year in Ontario Junior A.

[Bonded]

On to the next. Hopefully Markstrom is gone next!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Fourteen FTW

I hear girth is usually more desirable.

Being able to be out there for longer than 4-5 minutes is the most important.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

Please read sandman draft profile for this kid, he is really high on him.

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Well, I WAS high on him. I don't see the progression I was hoping for. Like I said though, I'm coming around on this trade.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Well, I WAS high on him. I don't see the progression I was hoping for.

In your opinion, is it possible he capsnout as a second dairing Dman?

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[Vinny01]

I am not going to try and react too much to these Conroy trades. So far I didn’t like 2 of them and they turned out just fine. He is making the right moves for the future of the team.

In Conroy we trust.

[Jiggy_12]

Flames now with 7 picks (and counting) in and around the first 115 picks of this years draft.

(If I’ve mathed this correctly)

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

In your opinion, is it possible he capsnout as a second dairing Dman?

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If he becomes a 2nd pairing D Flames are laughing all the way to the bank

[Harry Lime]

Grushnikov was picked #48 in 2021 based entirely off of his defensive attributes. He's never really put up numbers. And the thing is, the NHL has become so skewed towards the offensive defensemen, it might be good to have a few of these defensive defensemen lurking around.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

In your opinion, is it possible he capsnout as a second dairing Dman?

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He's still young, so anything is possible, but I think he'll be bottom pairing if he makes it, with some PK duty. Plenty of posters have pointed out that Tanev's stats weren't great between the ages of 18-20, though. Grush is a much better skater already than Tanev was when he was younger, so it's up to Grush.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

Please read sandman draft profile for this kid, he is really high on him.

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That was before he was drafted. How has he progressed since then