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Old 11-30-2023, 06:31 PM   #381
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I'll be satisfied when they utilize the cap space for making a larger hockey + futures trade involving one of the big two that helps set this team up for the future.

That's the mission now. You have to pay off this whelming move with your rival.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:32 PM   #382
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Not sure if serious
I'd lean towards no.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:32 PM   #383
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Really sucks that Poirier is injured, would love for him to take the roster spot.

Sucks that the 3rd is in 2026, but they just need to keep adding picks.

They now have 20 picks in the next three drafts. By the time the deadline has passed they will hopefully have closer to 25.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:33 PM   #384
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I'd lean towards no.
Yep.

I'm leaning so hard, I just fell off the horse.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:34 PM   #385
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This.

Would we have like to have gotten more? Yes.

Do we know what other GMs were offering? No. Obviously less than what we got.

Did Big Z Fata us over by spontaneously demanding a trade? Absolutely.

Can we judge Conroy by not knowing what other GMs had on the table? No. Totally unfair.

Did you read this post in a Peter Loubardias classic self-question and answer interview style? Well, one word = do it.

Big Z put him in a tough situation, he had to deal him, had to take the best of what was out there this far out from trade deadline (and looks he probably wanted to leave the 3 slots for retaining salary open).
2 picks. Let our amateur scouts do their thing (just don't pull a Jake Boltmann please, lads).
Sit back and watch Big Z both excite and infurate Nucks brass and fanbase. Move on.
Also, the was speculation that with the Beauvillier trade, Nucks were clearing space to sign Ethan Bear who's close to a return.

Wonder if Connie havin' a look here.
https://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...surgery-return
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:34 PM   #386
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not even a second is BS. should have held on to him and not traded if not for a 2nd. now all the other gms know conroy is a bitch
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:34 PM   #387
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Step 1: defeat the cup champions
Step 2: trade away your best defenceman
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:35 PM   #388
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I would rather have kept him and resigned for 5 x5
Draft picks (even if they are a few years out>another long-term veteran contract
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:36 PM   #389
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"Players upset"

Maybe they needed to get this guy out of the room more urgently than they were letting on.

But they also didn't want to give the impression that they could be pushed around by dealing him hours or days after the request.

Tough situation.
Francis (I know) said in a mid game session a couple weeks ago that players were upset with Zadorov. Not just over the trade request but also his previous comments which were taken like “I’m the only one trying here”.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:36 PM   #390
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Strong message to the team that we are sellers now
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:36 PM   #391
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if the Flames were unable to make a better trade because of an unwillingness to retain salary on 2023, I am unbelievably disappointed.
Even if they utilize that cap space and/or salary retention for a better trade?
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:36 PM   #392
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Conroy is a fan joke of a gm.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:37 PM   #393
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Step 1: defeat the cup champions
Step 2: trade away your best defenceman
When did they trade Weegar?
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:37 PM   #394
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Well that's a reach.
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:37 PM   #395
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Conroy is a fan joke of a gm.

What did you expect him to get for a UFA who has asked for a trade?
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Old 11-30-2023, 06:38 PM   #396
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Even if they utilize that cap space and/or salary retention for a better trade?
That'd be great, and I hope it happens. It'd also represent a huge departure from precedent for a team that has only ever retained salary once and didn't weaponize their cap space at all during their last major retool. It's not the Flames way.
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Conroy is a fan joke of a gm.
I recognize all those words but I have no idea what this means?
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Gilbert is our only tough guy now and second is... nobody. Flames soft as butter now. Look for other teams to exploit.
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Return aside, when was the last time Zadorov made a big hit, scored a nice goal or did something else notable.
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Oh please. I'm not high on Zadorov but if he was a replacement level player there certainly wouldn't have been all these teams that were interested in him.
So interested they wouldn't beat the offer
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