The Legend of Sam Bennett

[Roof-Daddy]

I can totally see the Flames protecting Gio and then giving up some sort of asset to Seattle so they won't take Tanev.

I really don't see them (right or wrong) leaving their captain and longest tenured Flame unprotected, even if they probably should. But they certainly won't want to lose Tanev, Andersson or Hanifin either.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That was my thinking. You have to consider the potential assets you get at the TDL next year when Gio has no term left. I think you can get something pretty good.

Plus Tanev has been terrific this year, but that doesn't mean he will be through the life of the contract. He probably won't be.

So all those factors have to be weighted
- Near-term and long-term salary implications
- Current and future quality of play for each player
- Potential return for Gio at the deadline next year
- Probability that Gio gets claimed
- Probability that Tanev gets claimed.

Let's say Gio can get you a late 1st at the TDL next year. Do you protect him to try and get that type of asset?

Right now Tanev is probably worth more as a player on the roster, but by next TDL Gio could be worth more as an asset to the organization

I doubt you get a first for Gio next TDL if the decline continues. And I just don’t see Tanev’s game declining for a few years. He’s a defensive D who relies more on positioning and intelligence than physicality or speed.

[Harry Lime]

With all of the 'who to protect' talk, I sometimes wonder if the reason that Kylington is not being played is to try and sneak him in under Seattle's radar. The guy is clearly an NHLer, but isn't getting the looks, and there must be a reason for that.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

With all of the 'who to protect' talk, I sometimes wonder if the reason that Kylington is not being played is to try and sneak him in under Seattle's radar. The guy is clearly an NHLer, but isn't getting the looks, and there must be a reason for that.

Maybe but they did waive him earlier in the year and the other 30 teams let him pass without a claim.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Maybe but they did waive him earlier in the year and the other 30 teams let him pass without a claim.

Waivers this year don't mean the same thing as they did in years prior. Covid isolation, cap concerns, and roster sizes with taxi squads really made a mess of picking up a player on the wire. It's only now at the end of the season that we are seeing skaters picked up, and they are of a pretty high accumen.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Waivers this year don't mean the same thing as they did in years prior. Covid isolation, cap concerns, and roster sizes with taxi squads really made a mess of picking up a player on the wire. It's only now at the end of the season that we are seeing skaters picked up, and they are of a pretty high accumen.

There are no real cap concerns when you are picking up Kylington, he makes the league minimum. If you think he is a NHL player in the future you would pick him up and ride out the covid isolation, as you are not picking him up to win now. I think it is safe to say no other teams are that high on him either.

[Classic_Sniper]

Wow...and like that, the Sam Bennett era is over in Cowtown. Have to say, that’s a heck of a return for a player who was likely not going to be protected.

Hope Florida gets some good use out of Bennett, especially in the playoffs where he shines bright. Honestly, a bit glad though that we can move on from all the drama. Not sure I’ve ever seen a more polarizing player in this organization. Like, thousands upon thousands of hours of Bennett talk littered CP and the madness can finally end regardless of which side you were on.


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[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Wow...and like that, the Sam Bennett era is over in Cowtown. Have to say, that’s a heck of a return for a player who was likely not going to be protected.

Hope Florida gets some good use out of Bennett, especially in the playoffs where he shines bright. Honestly, a bit glad though that we can move on from all the drama. Not sure I’ve ever seen a more polarizing player in this organization. Like, thousands upon thousands of hours of Bennett talk littered CP and the madness can finally end regardless of which side you were on.


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Now we can all move on to the real issue: Is Sean Monahan a #1 center?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

With all of the 'who to protect' talk, I sometimes wonder if the reason that Kylington is not being played is to try and sneak him in under Seattle's radar. The guy is clearly an NHLer, but isn't getting the looks, and there must be a reason for that.

They waived him for all to take...they are not hiding him

[Flamesfan2010]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Do either of those players project as #1Cs?

Bedard has been given exceptional status and is blowing away McDavid’s first year points per game of 1.06. Bedard is currently sitting at 28 points through 15 games played.


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[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Small thing, but I really like the combo of 2020 pick and 2022 pick. The team needs a steady supply of players and assets.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I doubt you get a first for Gio next TDL if the decline continues. And I just don’t see Tanev’s game declining for a few years. He’s a defensive D who relies more on positioning and intelligence than physicality or speed.

He is still leading the team in scoring for a dman

If he can do that, he can fetch at least a second for a rental

But I would not protect Gio or Backlund

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Wow...and like that, the Sam Bennett era is over in Cowtown. Have to say, that’s a heck of a return for a player who was likely not going to be protected.

Hope Florida gets some good use out of Bennett, especially in the playoffs where he shines bright. Honestly, a bit glad though that we can move on from all the drama. Not sure I’ve ever seen a more polarizing player in this organization. Like, thousands upon thousands of hours of Bennett talk littered CP and the madness can finally end regardless of which side you were on.


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The madness will never end. It’s why we’re here.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by getbak

You are required to make available 2 forwards and 1 defenceman who are under contract for the upcoming season and who have played at least 40 games in 2020-21 or a combined total of at least 70 games over the last 2 seasons. You are also required to expose 1 goalie who is either signed to an NHL contract for 2021-22 or an RFA at the end of this season.


If we assume the Flames will protect: Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan, Lindholm, Backlund, Mangiapane, and Dube up front; Hanifin, Andersson, and Tanev on D; and Markstrom in goal; that would leave Lucic and Giordano to meet the skater exposure requirement and Parsons to meet the goalie requirement.

The Flames need to sign (or otherwise acquire) a qualifying forward to a contract for 2021-22 prior to the expansion draft in order to be compliant.

I think 2 of backlund mangiapane and dube are exposed. Until it’s official I think Lucic waiving or even being asked is wishful thinking - appreciating it is common wisdom so I am probably wrong.

[Sylvanfan]

I always though Bennett suffered from the high expectations and never really meeting them.

I don't think he'll do like John Leclair and start scoring 40 goals. But maybe he becomes a more consistent 15 goal and 30 point guy in a place like Floriday where no one will know who he is, and never talk about him till the Flames come to town.

It's a pretty decent return, and time to turn this page and move on. I won't be too sad if Huberdeau and Barkov cause a Mutiny, and the locals compromise Bobrovski to the point where he's giving up 4 in the first period every game next year. But for these playoffs, good luck to you Sam...play well now, and suck hard next year.

[Tkachukwagon]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1381740684604973056

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

I think 2 of backlund mangiapane and dube are exposed. Until it’s official I think Lucic waiving or even being asked is wishful thinking - appreciating it is common wisdom so I am probably wrong.

Wait, you think two of them will be exposed?

Gaudreau
Monahan
Lindholm
Tkachuk
Lucic

Even if Lucic doesn't waive, there are two more forward protection slots. Not sure who else the Flames would protect over Dube, Mangiapane, or even Backlund.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Has Treliving been on the radio to discuss moves? If no, I hope they ask him what their book on Heineman was in his draft year and how that book has changed (if at all) this year? (Given the caveats that this is a 19 yo and no one is expecting him to be on the NHL roster this year) What do they project for him?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

With all of the 'who to protect' talk, I sometimes wonder if the reason that Kylington is not being played is to try and sneak him in under Seattle's radar. The guy is clearly an NHLer, but isn't getting the looks, and there must be a reason for that.

Meh. I don't know that he is clearly an NHLer. That's the problem. He hasn't established that under multiple coaches.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Now we can all move on to the real issue: Is Sean Monahan a #1 center?

Nope

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