[PGT] Oilers blow out Flames 7-1

[Nufy]

Opposing teams can have a bbq and finish a 6 pack in front of the net after whistles.

Flames players just skate on by...

They just don't care right now.

[Ragnorok347]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Well this is just stupid. Take what we did tonight and do it for 16 years straight and you have the current oilers. No idea who is stupid enough to cheer for that but sure dude.

The key to what I said was "tried" to cheer for them. Calgary has never been my favourite team. Toronto and Colorado have always been who I cheer for. Yes Edmonton has been a dumpster fire for the past 10 years or so.

There's a big difference between them and Calgary though. At least McDavid can put on a show and make the games enjoyable to watch even if they are blown out. He can single handily win a game for Edmonton while Calgary hasn't had a player like that since maybe Iginla.

If Edmonton had landed Markstrom, I'd bet anything they'd be tops in the division. Calgary would 100% be dead last in the division if we didn't have him. At least Ottawa as bad as they are come out nightly and play their hearts out. Calgary doesn't come close to Winnipeg/Toronto or Montreal atm. It'll end up Toronto/Winnipeg/Montreal/Edmonton/Vancouver/Calgary/Ottawa in that order in the end.

One thing Vancouver does have is a pretty strong depth for scoring. Very young guys and if they can get some more chemistry going look out. Their downside atm is defense and goaltending.

As other's have mentioned, it seems the players have just quit playing for ward. No leadership, no drive, no intensity in the games. Outside of Dube and a couple others, Calgary is just a slow slow team. The winning teams are fast and physical.

Not really sure what they should do atm. Dump the entire core for draft picks and try and rebuild before the new rink in a few years?

Sadly unless management changes I think Calgary will be the same as it has been the last 5-6 years. Either barely making the playoffs/knocked out first round/garbage draft pick or they just miss the playoffs and get a 13 or 14th pick.

At least Gaudreau is playing a lot better this year. Really the only positive I've seen this season.

[Macman]

There's something wrong, the team is just having way to many bad games. Even with a good goalie now they get blown out. There's been a lot of good things pointed out here so I'm not sure what management is thinking or what's going on or what the plan is going forward in a shortened season.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

Haha that would be awesome. No more softball questions form reporters the team can ban for being too tough.

No kidding.

We are long-suffering fans of a very mediocre team. And thats okay. As fans we made Peace with that a long time ago.

We ask for very little.

"Don't let your #1 Rivals use your testicles as a punching bag."

I dont think thats an unreasonably high level of expectation.

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1363537622761627650

[CaptainCrunch]

I was kinda pissed last night, I mean, even in their worst days the Flames didn't deadstick the Battle of Alberta like a badly wounded fighter spiraling into the turf. But frankly they did over the last two games. We can talk about shots on net, and Koskinen playing like an NHL goalie. But lets be honest, even with those shots, the Flames were neither dangerous or looked determined.

So I went to bed last night after a few stiff shots of Whiskey (No ice), and expected to wake up and be crabby about it, and to have to respond to friends of mine who are Edmonton fans.

And yes I got a lot of texts, with the whole, ha ha, your team sucks, blah blah blah. I decided to respond to each of them Iron Sheik style with a hale and hearty "Good Morning, go F yourself".

Then I realized that as I read the game recap, that at some point last night, my give a crap meter flipped from the "Yes I do" setting to "ah whatever man" setting.

This team has been dud like all season, not showing up for long periods, not looking particularly determined. There are a few players that are putting in respectable or more then respectable levels of compete. However for the most part, this team when I'm watching them doesn't inspire me, or make me do a Covid inspired self high five. Instead, I find it boring to watch a team that's so marginally engaged, and plays mind numbing stupid hockey at times.

Now if this was a normal relationship, I would sit the Flames down and say "We need to see other people, but its not you, its me" followed by mumbled statements about "needing to work on myself" and become a better person. But with the statement of hockey, the speech is "I need to go to seminary school" and its "Not me, its you" and "You need to go away and work on yourself Flames".

Frankly its sad as a hockey fan to say "I'm not mad", "I'm not sad" but "I'd rather build models using bricks made out of poop then watch you guys drift around the ice".

I don't know what changes the flames need to make, the issue feels cultural, and about 10 years old. But they need to fix it before the fans return to the building, because with tight wallets and mass unemployment, they might end up continuing to play in front of empty buildings, because the Flames are not good value as an entertainment value in the city.

[Locke]

And frankly....the last thing I GAF about is this team/organization/roster having a good, long introspective analysis of themselves.

If you dont know yourselves and what you're about by now...it might be time to take up baking or crochet. Regardless...a new line of work either way.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Craig Button torched Geoff Ward in TSN’s breakdown of the loss.

It was great. Finished it off by saying if the coaching doesn’t get a lot better, Brad Treliving may be looking for a new coach.

Craig has railed against coaches here before if I recall correctly. It's nice that its not just average schmuck CP posters like me who think Treliving's coaches have been god awful. It's incredible to me that Calgary media just fawns over each coaching selection when it happens, rather than asking obvious questions like why don't you interview somebody with a proven body of work in the NHL. Yeah, we are not NHL qualified professionals on this site but you didn't need to be to see that Ward was just another in the line of coaches that wasn't going to be what the team needed.

[Manhattanboy]

So Bennett broke the guy’s collarbone? Benchworthy for sure.

[ReinhartonD]

So is 960 on a leash about how much they can criticize? Yes, fans do get to let loose on the post game, but has anyone else noticed that no game audio or postgame shows have been uploaded on their podcasts after the Feb11 Canucks game (3-1 win) for game audio and the Jan 26 loss to the Leafs for postgame shows?

(If anyone has a link to where I can hear last night's postgame, please let me know--I may just be media challenged.)

As for the morning show, there are bursts of hockey talk in between long ramblings about stupid crap that no one cares about--I agree with others who've ditched it.

[Manhattanboy]

Backlund doesn’t act like a total dumbass and the result could have different.

Ya whom I kidding?

[djsFlames]

I'd be irate but I had one of the most productive, relaxing evenings last night after turning it off early it in the 2nd.

Not letting the motions of this team dictate how my nights go any more, so I've just had the games on in the periphery. When I see the lackluster efforts I just flip it off.

Not worth the time until we see a total rejuvenation of composure and effort from the team. I mean something different from the usual patterns of the last 5 years.

I suggest others do the same.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

I'd be irate but I had one of the most productive, relaxing evenings last night after turning it off early it in the 2nd.

Not letting the motions of this team dictate how my nights go any more, so I've just had the games on in the periphery. When I see the lackluster efforts I just flip it off.

Not worth the time until we see a total rejuvenation of composure and effort from the team. I mean something different from the usual patterns of the last 5 years.

I suggest others do the same.

I stopped even bothering with the first period after the Vancouver series. Now I just check the score occasionally on my phone to see if the game is worth putting on the TV. Last night when I looked at the score I couldn't help but laugh, then went back to playing games with my daughter. There is simply zero reason to get invested with this team

[Burning Beard]

Hey can we talk about how much fun Mangiapane is? Dude is great and all effort. He will go in a corner, trip, get up, get pushed over, get up again and still come out of it with the puck. If a couple more of our forwards had his work effort this team would be great.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I stopped even bothering with the first period after the Vancouver series. Now I just check the score occasionally on my phone to see if the game is worth putting on the TV. Last night when I looked at the score I couldn't help but laugh, then went back to playing games with my daughter. There is simply zero reason to get invested with this team

Absolutely.

They may even win against the Leafs but its about the manner in which they win.

The way they won against Vancouver twice was still the same hockey as the last two just with the goalie making the saves.

Still lackluster, still 50-60% efforts from most guys.

Win or lose when they play that way its not worth investing in because you can be certain they won't get out of the first round if they make the dance playing that way.

The output from min. 0 to 60 has to look very different from these first 17 games to be worth buying into this group this season.

Need far fewer valleys and much shallower ones in terms of compete.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Hey can we talk about how much fun Mangiapane is? Dude is great and all effort. He will go in a corner, trip, get up, get pushed over, get up again and still come out of it with the puck. If a couple more of our forwards had his work effort this team would be great.

Mangiapane has demonstrated in these last 3 losses how this is 100% on compete. Because that's exactly how he made his goals happen. Even though he had as much reason to sulk as the rest.

Relentless persistence is the best quality an athlete can have. I know for certain that if these guys were as relentless as Andrew, we would notice it both on the ice and the scoreboard.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Mangiapane has demonstrated in these last 3 losses how this is 100% on compete. Because that's exactly how he made his goals happen. Even though he had as much reason to sulk as the rest.

Relentless persistence is the best quality an athlete can have. I know for certain that if these guys were as relentless as Andrew, we would notice it both on the ice and the scoreboard.

Mangiapane has been total fun to watch- he doesn't seem to have an "off" button...guy competes and gives all every time. Does he make the odd mistake? Sure...but the makes up for it time and time again. Wish we had a whole team of bread-eaters.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I stopped even bothering with the first period after the Vancouver series. Now I just check the score occasionally on my phone to see if the game is worth putting on the TV. Last night when I looked at the score I couldn't help but laugh, then went back to playing games with my daughter. There is simply zero reason to get invested with this team

I’m sure your daughter put in way more effort at winning your games.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Backlund doesn’t act like a total dumbass and the result could have different.

Ya whom I kidding?

An unusual use of 'whom'. Textcritic, do your damn job!

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I stopped even bothering with the first period after the Vancouver series. Now I just check the score occasionally on my phone to see if the game is worth putting on the TV. Last night when I looked at the score I couldn't help but laugh, then went back to playing games with my daughter. There is simply zero reason to get invested with this team

I had nothing better to do so I left it on while I just played a game on the internet. It was when the Oilers scored their 7th goal 30 seconds in that I just laughed and turned it off. I at least wanted a pushback, knowing that the Flames could at least score a couple of goals, but we didn't even get that!