[Trade] Hall (50% ret), Speers to ARI for 1st, cond 3rd, Merkley, Schnarr, Bahl

[Roof-Daddy]

Why would they put him in that ugly ass jersey?

[bettercallbettman]

Hope the kid can tear it up.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Dube

Hope the kid can tear it up.

No one can beat Smyth though.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Aside from the main reason that Taylor Hall is not a good fit, the Flames are barely having on to a playoff position. Not a time to trade futures away, unless they run the team like Ottawa. I seem to remember Ottawa trading futures for Duchene and then starting a rebuild a year later.

The Flames are in a playoff spot despite one of the hardest schedules, major team turmoil, and most of the roster having bad starts. The Yotes were two points better and made the deal. Winning/losing is a fine line in the NHL these days...last year showed us that.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Why does Hall look like someone wearing a very realistic Hall mask?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Flames are in a playoff spot despite one of the hardest schedules, major team turmoil, and most of the roster having bad starts. The Yotes were two points better and made the deal. Winning/losing is a fine line in the NHL these days...last year showed us that.

Based on winning percentage they actually aren’t in a playoff spot, so they are currently the very definition of a bubble team.


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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Why does Hall look like someone wearing a very realistic Hall mask?

Because NJ actually sent one of their worst forwards in disguise.

[rvd123]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm still looking at NJ and Mike McLeod. Dont really care if other people dont like him much. But a fast RHS center who may find his niche in the NHL at RW would be good to look at. Probably not top 6 material but I think he could be a great fit here.

He's in the Devils lineup since the trade, will see if he does anything.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes, totally dissimilar actually. The Flames are nothing like Ottawa.

Not yet...and thankfully we haven't bet the farm too badly on a mirage [yet].

Fun fact: In any time frame since the Senators have been in existence, they have never won fewer cumulative playoff series than the Flames. ie. You could count any number of years back from present, and Sens would always >/= Flames PO series wins. Or, starting from the year of their expansion moving forward, the result would be the same.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The Flames are in a playoff spot despite one of the hardest schedules, major team turmoil, and most of the roster having bad starts. The Yotes were two points better and made the deal. Winning/losing is a fine line in the NHL these days...last year showed us that.

You lack objectivity

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Based on winning percentage they actually aren’t in a playoff spot, so they are currently the very definition of a bubble team.


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Despite a million things working against them thus far...does anyone really think the Flames aren't 1-3 in the Pacific? wanna bet?

Oilers are going to outplay them the rest of the year despite a harder schedule? Oilers and Flames are basically tied despite the Oilers having everything go their way all season long. SJ miraculous comeback?

Phoenix, Vegas, Calgary, are 1-3 in the Pacific in no particular order IMO

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

You lack objectivity

you lack reality...how many teams in the Pacific are better than Calgary? Its not a homer thing most expect the Flames to be in the playoffs

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you lack reality...how many teams in the Pacific are better than Calgary? Its not a homer thing most expect the Flames to be in the playoffs

Haha welllll if you recall my predictions at the start of the year... I’m feeling like I’m not so far off at this juncture. We shall see. But, I’m just saying you are a terrific fan because you’re always so quick to defend everything Flames... way better than I am honestly but it makes it tough to read your posts without this enormous bias. That seems to colour your perspective like rose coloured glasses I guess. I don’t even mean this as demeaning or insulting it’s what fans should probably be but I’m just saying- there are other teams with great qualities too.

So I think Arizona is a better team than Calgary today? Yes, for sure they are. I also think they have better upside. Just because Arizona has been bad for a long time doesn’t mean they will forever. I think the one team I overshot on my prediction at the beginning of the year was the Canucks, they haven’t been as good as I thought they’d be. But Calgary’s middle of the road okayish play? Yeah, I think I pretty much nailed that actually.

[GioforPM]

AZ didn’t look like much on the 10th.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Haha welllll if you recall my predictions at the start of the year... I’m feeling like I’m not so far off at this juncture. We shall see. But, I’m just saying you are a terrific fan because you’re always so quick to defend everything Flames... way better than I am honestly but it makes it tough to read your posts without this enormous bias. That seems to colour your perspective like rose coloured glasses I guess. I don’t even mean this as demeaning or insulting it’s what fans should probably be but I’m just saying- there are other teams with great qualities too.

So I think Arizona is a better team than Calgary today? Yes, for sure they are. I also think they have better upside. Just because Arizona has been bad for a long time doesn’t mean they will forever. I think the one team I overshot on my prediction at the beginning of the year was the Canucks, they haven’t been as good as I thought they’d be. But Calgary’s middle of the road okayish play? Yeah, I think I pretty much nailed that actually.

You are always negative...You are the anti-homer how can we take you seriously.

Calgary is 8-2-1 in their last 11 games. Brag about your awesome predictions at the end of the season not in December.

For sure Arizona is better than Calgary? based on what? a few points in the standings while the Flames top players had ridiculously terrible stars

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You are always negative...You are the anti-homer how can we take you seriously.

Calgary is 8-2-1 in their last 11 games. Brag about your awesome predictions at the end of the season not in December.

For sure Arizona is better than Calgary? based on what? a few points in the standings while the Flames top players had ridiculously terrible stars

I think it’s fair to call me overly negative. I can be pretty pessimistic that’s true. But, we haven’t had a lot to really celebrate over 30 years.

Anyway, I think Arizona’s top top end talent is worse than Calgary, like Gaudreau and Giordano are better than anything Arizona has, but depth they are better. Then guys like Hayton, Hinostroza, Schmaltz, Chycrun, Keller, Dvorak, Hall, Soderberg, Stepan, Kessel, Ekman-Larsson... like they have more “good” players than we do. It’s honestly a good roster.

But hey- I was very positive in Gaudreau. Guy is just an absolute all-star player and probably the best Flame we have seen since Iginla. He is criminally underrated in this city IMO.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

AZ didn’t look like much on the 10th.

Cool. One day

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I think it’s fair to call me overly negative. I can be pretty pessimistic that’s true. But, we haven’t had a lot to really celebrate over 30 years.

Anyway, I think Arizona’s top top end talent is worse than Calgary, like Gaudreau and Giordano are better than anything Arizona has, but depth they are better. Then guys like Hayton, Hinostroza, Schmaltz, Chycrun, Keller, Dvorak, Hall, Soderberg, Stepan, Kessel, Ekman-Larsson... like they have more “good” players than we do. It’s honestly a good roster.

But hey- I was very positive in Gaudreau. Guy is just an absolute all-star player and probably the best Flame we have seen since Iginla. He is criminally underrated in this city IMO.

Thanked because I think this is a darned good post.

[powderjunkie]

The Pacific appears to be the worst overall division in hockey. 5/8 teams with negative goal diff, no real scary teams...just a whole lot of "meh" from top to bottom.

DET and OTT really weigh down the Atlantic, but BOS is as good as it gets, and TBL could/should become scarier than anyone in the Pacific.

Winning the Pacific right now is like winning a beauty contest in Edmonton; it doesn't mean you're not attractive, but you're not going to last very long when you start competing against girls who have all of their teeth.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

Cool. One day

One day when they played the Flames. Who played OK, but not their best. I think the Avs are a much better team than the Yotes. I think the Yotes are having a year like Calgary’s last year, when things go so right for the first half. Player for player, the Flames are better IMO.