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			Why not just have lasers that obliterate anything in the plane of the goal net?  If the puck is incinerated, its a good goal. If only partially charred, new puck dropped at the next faceoff.  
   
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			01-23-2019, 02:04 PM
			
			
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			Hawkeye technology requires no sensors. 
I have no idea if it would work in hockey.  
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			01-23-2019, 02:36 PM
			
			
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				Hawkeye technology requires no sensors. 
I have no idea if it would work in hockey.  
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Hawkeye is the tennis stuff right?  I would think it requires an unobstructed view.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-23-2019, 03:09 PM
			
			
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				Hawkeye is the tennis stuff right?  I would think it requires an unobstructed view. 
			
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Yes, they also have a soccer version (and have tested it with other sports, like baseball and cricket too). It is a "visual" system that requires at least three cameras to have at least a partial view of the ball at all times to triangulate its position.
 
It wouldn't work for hockey (or football, for that matter) because the situations where it would be most useful are those where the puck is out of view of any of the cameras.
 
This weekend, during the All Star Game, we're supposed to hear more about the league's plans for the new player and puck tracking technology that will be rolled out league-wide next season. It uses a microchip embedded in the puck to track its position at all times.
 
The question there is with the level of accuracy of the technology. If it's accurate to within a couple of inches, it would be good enough for tracking things like the speed and direction of travel. It would need to have close to mm accuracy to be used for goal line decisions. Ideally, it would also need to be able to determine the orientation of the puck as well for the really close goal line calls.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-25-2019, 03:09 PM
			
			
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			Does Rittich have arbitration rights. If so, worried this could be used as a comparable
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2019, 03:13 PM
			
			
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				Does Rittich have arbitration rights. If so, worried this could be used as a comparable 
			
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UFA contracts can’t be used in RFA arbitration cases as far as I know.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2019, 03:14 PM
			
			
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			He does, but as Friedman pointed out Koskinen would be a UFA, Rittich an RFA so it can't be used in an arb case.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2019, 03:32 PM
			
			
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			The dude with Kipper and Vernon on his new mask is not going to arbitration, guaranteed.   He's so fricking excited to play with this group he'd probably do it free.   But Tre will sign him fair and square, and nothing to do with this silly Koskinen contract.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2019, 03:55 PM
			
			
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				The dude with Kipper and Vernon on his new mask is not going to arbitration, guaranteed... 
			
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Miikka Kiprusoff went to arbitration.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-25-2019, 04:44 PM
			
			
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				Miikka Kiprusoff went to arbitration. 
			
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People have some silly, childish notion that these guys hold some special allegiance to the Flames that results in them making bad business decisions. 
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			01-25-2019, 04:47 PM
			
			
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				Why? Hes already in Edmonton, there's really nowhere to go but up. 
			
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			01-25-2019, 05:04 PM
			
			
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				It wouldn't be 15 teams but there are certainly a few teams that I would place below Edmonton on my desired places to play if I were in the NHL. 
			
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Do tell! At least if your in Arizona or Florida on a losing team, its not freezing and there are things to do. Edmonton is essentially a frozen hell. The mall gets old fast. And what franchise has ruined more careers then Edmonton? At least you never get a chance to get too attached to your coach, I guess.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-25-2019, 05:16 PM
			
			
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				It wouldn't be 15 teams but there are certainly a few teams that I would place below Edmonton on my desired places to play if I were in the NHL. 
			
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Maybe Buffalo or Winnipeg, but at least their teams are good.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-26-2019, 11:52 AM
			
			
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It's possible that people believe that Edmonton isn't bad, if they haven't travelled much.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-26-2019, 12:00 PM
			
			
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				It's possible that people believe that Edmonton isn't bad, if they haven't travelled much. 
			
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			01-26-2019, 04:56 PM
			
			
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				No, I do understand. But saying the best deal isn't the best deal makes no sense... the best deal is the best deal, hence why it is called the best deal. If it weren't the best deal, it would not be called the best deal. It would be called the good deal, or slightly worse than best deal, etc. 
 
 
 
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How about the apparent best deal is not always the best long term strategy.
 
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			01-27-2019, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			The only thing Edmonton has going for it is it's closer to Calgary than any other NHL city.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			It will be interesting to see how this contract works out. 
I've seen the argument about coaching style, and I've seen the argument about missing Klefbom - reason for Koskinen's decline of late.
 
So here's a table ...
 
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	Row Labels	Count of Date	Saves	Save%	CA/Game	SCA/Game	HDA/Game
McLellan	8	211	0.913	56.8	28.8	11.1
Healthy	8	211	0.913	56.8	28.8	11.1
Hitchcock	20	505	0.908	55.7	27.2	12.4
Healthy	7	196	0.942	59.1	28.9	12.9
Klefbom	13	309	0.888	53.8	26.2	12.1
Grand Total	28	716	0.910	56.0	27.6	12.0 
 
In chapters ...
 
Chapter One - McLellan as coach - .913 save percentage 
Chapter Two - Hitchcock with Klefbom healthy - .942 save percentage 
Chapter Three - Hitchcock Klefbom hurt - .888 save percentage
 
The assumption ... Klefbom out means Oilers are no good and it's not Koskinen's fault.
 
But look at the team metrics at the same time.
 
Chapter One - McLellan as coach - CA 56.8 SCA 28.8 HDCA 11.1 
Chapter Two - Hitchcock with Klefbom healthy - CA 59.1 SCA 28.9 HDCA 12.9 
Chapter Three - Hitchcock Klefbom hurt - CA 53.8 SCA 26.2 HDCA 12.1
 
The Oilers have given up less in terms of shot attempts, scoring chances and high danger chances without Klefbom but Koskinen has been shredded just the same.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-27-2019, 12:05 PM
			
			
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			Oilers fans wanted to run Klefbom out of town last season because he was so horrible defensively and now he's Larry Robinson?  The truth is that goaltenders get unsustainably hot at times.  Brian Boucher holds the all-time consecutive shutout streak record which tells you all you need to know about not buying in too much when a goaltender goes on a run.  He was never going to sustain that level of play and to make matters worse it seems that teams have enough film to scout his weaknesses as he's getting beat high up and from bad angles.  He kind of reminds me of Smith in that he will make a handful of spectacular saves in the same game he lets in two soft goals.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-27-2019, 01:06 PM
			
			
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