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On Monday, Hayley Geftman-Gold, a top CBS executive, posted on Facebook that she didn't have sympathy for the victims gunned down at the country music festival in Las Vegas because "country music fans are often Republican gun toters."
I don't care who you are, what the color of your skin is, what your religion is, or who you support. If you speak words like that and show such callousness towards other human beings, then you are just plain evil.
On Monday, Hayley Geftman-Gold, a top CBS executive, posted on Facebook that she didn't have sympathy for the victims gunned down at the country music festival in Las Vegas because "country music fans are often Republican gun toters."
She was immediately fired.
Proof right there that even lawyers can have low IQ's
"Geftman-Gold also wrote on Facebook that she had no hope that Republicans — whom she called “Repugs” — would ever take action and “do the right thing” if they didn’t do anything when children were murdered, an apparent reference to the December 2012 Sandy Hook shooting that left 28 people dead, including 20 children, killed inside their elementary school in Connecticut."
Ultimately, the 2nd Amendment is the root of the problem - if you consider the problem to be the number of gun deaths and/or the number of mass shootings in the United States.
As long as the 2nd Amendment is in place, any and all restrictions on firearms or accessories are at risk of being found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Get an assault weapons ban in place? A poorly worded ban, or an unfriendly (or friendly depending on your perspective) Supreme Court and that ban is history. Restrictions on modifications, magazine sizes, extra background checks? Again, it's not that hard to imagine conservative, textualist jurists deciding those restrictions infringe on the right of people to keep and bear arms.
In addition, given the United States political construction as a Federalist Union of States, the inevitable variation of gun laws from State to State and municipality to municipality renders local efforts almost completely moot: see Chicago's efforts to curb handgun violence.
It is entirely obvious, based on the actions of Americans, that they don't actually care that tens of thousands of people die from guns every year. They don't care about mass shootings and they don't care about the victims of gun violence. Sure, they claim to care. They'll lower flags and have a moment of silence and talk about how people they disagree with are disgustingly politicizing the event "before the bodies are cold" (Sean Hannity). They'll claim to introspect and be heartbroken and pray and memorialize but they'll do nothing of any consequence.
America, you actually want fewer people to die from guns, and for there to be fewer mass shootings? Then you need to at least start talking about repealing the 2nd Amendment.
I oft thought about this part. While technically true, there's already extensive bans. You can't go and buy yourself a small mortar launcher and a pickup truck load of mortars. Mortars are considered small arms. Or a RPG, or other small artillery pieces. There are already restrictions that people have made peace with, despite the fact that they are "unconstitutional". Why not just extend it to hand guns, semi-auto rifles and high capacity shotguns? Surely a common sense judge panel can see that.
I oft thought about this part. While technically true, there's already extensive bans. You can't go and buy yourself a small mortar launcher and a pickup truck load of mortars. Mortars are considered small arms. Or a RPG, or other small artillery pieces. There are already restrictions that people have made peace with, despite the fact that they are "unconstitutional". Why not just extend it to hand guns, semi-auto rifles and high capacity shotguns? Surely a common sense judge panel can see that.
Mortars are "small arms" you sure"
Edit: I thought so, they are not small arms.
They are classified as Light Weapons (which is funny if you have ever had to carry one).
I was just assuming, but the point stands. You still can't go down to your neighborhood gun store in America and acquire mortars or RPGs. And for good reason.
AR-15s, handguns and high capacity shotguns should be equally hard to acquire.
I was watching the news last night (CTV) and they were interviewing gun owners and gun shop owners and asking them about their views on weapons.
It was interesting so to speak because it went from rational to bat shyte crazy.
There was one gun owner who said that anything that can fire fully auto, or the modifications to fully auto should be outright banned, but hunters need 30 round magazines and semi-auto is required for home defense.
there was another gun shop owner that basically said that the back ground checks and other gun purchasing requirements in the States were incredibly strict and wouldn't have prevented this shooter or most others from buying those guns.
there was another moron who said that they needed these guns to protect against an invasion of the States by the Chinese or Japanese and that it was citizens with guns that would defeat an invasion and not the army.
The gun culture down there is so ingrained that the solution can never be implemented. We can blame the NRA all we want and man they are at fault here. But its every single American that see's a need and justification for having these weapons that are at fault, and no amount of education or logical reasoning is going to change enough minds to demand change. Because I will tell you, if tomorrow morning half of the population of the states stood up and said enough is enough, we have to ban these types of weapons, the NRA lobby and the Congressmen and Senators and other leaders who sit on their hands wouldn't matter.
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I thought the Simpsons were joking when homer got a gun and his reasoning was wanting to protect himself so the king of England can't come and start shoving Lisa around...... Reading comments about gun control it seems some Americans actually believe this kind of stuff could happen I have no words
The owner of Machine Gun Vegas, a shooting range that gives customers “the real feel of what it’s like to clear a room with just a pull of the trigger”, was on hand to personally explain to some Chinese customers why they were still not open on Tuesday, 48 hours after the city’s mass shooting.
“We just don’t think it’s appropriate,” said Genghis Cohen, whose shooting range is typically open to children as young as 10, and also arranges trips where clients fly across the desert in a helicopter shooting out of an M60 belt-fed machine gun.
What constitutes “appropriate” is, of course, a matter of opinion, and Cohen said the company has been targeted with “#### you” hate mail from seething gun enthusiasts who do not believe he should have closed for two days.
I think that there is an unequivocally deep connection between the guns and American culture. The core of the issue is, as with many American issues (immigration, race wars, etc) is that America is an extremely insecure and fearful nation. A lot of this stems from a poor education system, as ignorance is the number one driver of fear and hate.
The fact is, a lot of Americans aren’t just uneducated in the issues, they’re poorly educated period. Because this problem is such a massive one to fix, politicians seems to play to the uneducated instead, whether by playing on their fear and ignorance or by creating an illusion of the educated being “bourgeoisie” in some way, separating them from the common man. This makes it seem like being stupid is ok, that having stupid views is ok, because hey, you’re the common man!
The idea that Americans need personal firearms for protection (especially when you get into the realm of protecting them from outsiders like the Chinese, or from the government itself) is one that is far removed from a reality that someone with a basic education would be able to conjure. Of course, it happens here too (with a lack of education or world experience being at the root of most deeply conservative social ideologies or any and all outright hateful ones). Though, just to be clear, I’m not saying conservatives of the economic or social variety are uneducated, but that regressive social views are born from it and those people tend to identify as conservative in some way (or libertarian, or something stupid).
The communists are scary.
The blacks are scary.
The gays are scary.
The Muslims are scary.
The other is scary.
Until this ideology is changed or at least diminished, gun control is going to be extremely difficult. That said, it’s worth taking whatever steps they can to move the marker down the field, but even if they started today it’s going to be a very slow process.
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"The Armor of Light" was an interesting documentary, not sure if it is still on Netflix or not. Has a religious angle to it, but otherwise an interesting insight into gun culture in the States. Seems like they are just conditioned to be terrified of everything.
I thought the Simpsons were joking when homer got a gun and his reasoning was wanting to protect himself so the king of England can't come and start shoving Lisa around...... Reading comments about gun control it seems some Americans actually believe this kind of stuff could happen I have no words
I've only ever met one such individual, but this gun toter seriously thought the greatest threat to America was England and the Crown. He said that he would murder the entire royal family if he could and would proudly die doing so. I kid you not. He said he's a direct descendant of Jefferson.
Said some disparaging things about Canada too.
I told him to go shove his American flag flagpole up his ass.
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some of the stuff quoted above my post just make me want to bang my head against a wall and scream.
based on this once incident I'd imagine hotels in vegas will implement some type of security measures to prevent this, but yet, nothing with respect to the sale of guns will change.
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some of the stuff quoted above my post just make me want to bang my head against a wall and scream.
based on this once incident I'd imagine hotels in vegas will implement some type of security measures to prevent this, but yet, nothing with respect to the sale of guns will change.
Wynn and Encore were already trying out hand held metal detectors at all their entrances yesterday. Allegedly lineups were 10 minutes long to get into their buildings.
I was just assuming, but the point stands. You still can't go down to your neighborhood gun store in America and acquire mortars or RPGs. And for good reason.
AR-15s, handguns and high capacity shotguns should be equally hard to acquire.
Mortars and RPGs never hurt anyone. They are an inanimate object, blah, blah, blah. They should be legal under the second amendment says some gun toter.
I was just assuming, but the point stands. You still can't go down to your neighborhood gun store in America and acquire mortars or RPGs. And for good reason.
AR-15s, handguns and high capacity shotguns should be equally hard to acquire.
The 2nd Amendment just says "arms", which could include anything from a pocket knife to a nuclear weapons.
As you state, there are already many qualifications on "arms" in the current law. There's absolutely nothing more unconstitutional about adding more regulations.
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