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[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Really? That sounds like a real longshot to me considering that's 20 more points then he got last year and would represent a career high.

I think he's going to excel here in a depth role.

Also, career highs don't mean much to me when we're talking about a 22 year old with just two full and healthy seasons in his career so far, that weren't decimated by a bout with mono.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Really? That sounds like a real longshot to me considering that's 20 more points then he got last year and would represent a career high.

It's almost like he's young and still developing into the NHL game.

[Mass_nerder]

Man, I was out of service all day yesterday just dying because I was curious to know what we did. Guess I didn't miss much!

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Explain what's ridiculous? Owners have made money on other ventures and would have been rich regardless of owning a professional franchise. Athletes are rich based on their athletic talent, and they're more than fairly compensated for that.

It's a ridiculous argument because you have to take everyone into account not just consider doctors and teachers vs. athletes. NBA players are paid they way they are because they are a product that people buy. No different from iphones, bikes, star wars, cars, etc... You act like all the billionaires in this world deserve the money because they are saving peoples lives. Guess what most aren't. They exploit workers and push the boundaries of the laws to reap maximum rewards. I'm not saying all of them. Whats ridiculous is society constantly talks about how overpaid athletes are? The owners love it because it keeps the target off them, just like other billionaires love to fuel discontent among the lower and middle class so they will ignore the rich people. People who are the best at what they do are usually rewarded for it and athletes getting paid millions isn't hurting anyone.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

You have to free up the space to try and get things done. The cap space could come in handy at the deadline too. So time could still tell.

That's true. I'll be curious to see how/if it gets used.

I'm still probably traumatized by Feaster's whole "we gained cap space" shtick to justify the horrible Regehr/Igina/Bouwmeester trades. Cap space that all went to waste.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No, he didn't literally make the team grow it's worth by $2B. There were all kinds of reasons why it happened, some team-specific and some league-specific.

LeBron's comment was clueless. But he will probably be an owner one day, and his views will change.

Literally was a bad word to use there, but their success has driven their value up considerably. He was probably the 2nd biggest factor outside the tv contract. Going from an also ran to a championship caliber team increases values greatly. Average team increased 3.5x in the span he's been playing, why did his increase almost 6x?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

The Flames forward group is just fine as is IMO.

All they lost from the group from last season is Bouma and Chiasson. As it stands right now, Chiasson is being replaced by a full year of Lazar, and Bouma will likely be replaced by either Jankowski or Foo.

I'd be just fine betting that Lazar out produces Chiasson's 24 points, and I imagine Foo or Jankowski could out produce Bouma's 7 points with one eye taped shut.

Not to mention that 3 of the Flames top 4 scoring forwards are 24 and under and all of the top 5 scoring forwards are 29 or under, and that doesn't include Bennett or Lazar, both of whom could easily break out this season with massive amounts of offensive growth.

I would love an Iginla or Jagr signing, for sentimentality reasons as much as anything. Beyond that, I am good with the forward group as is and let's see what we have. If this team is anywhere near contention, Treliving will undoubtedly make moves at the deadline.

[FlamesAddiction]

The Senators signed Flames cast offs Max Reinhart and Danny Taylor.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The Senators signed Flames cast offs Max Reinhart and Danny Taylor.

Does Ottawa have an ex-Flames scout working for them?

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It's almost like he's young and still developing into the NHL game.

You'd still be betting that he'll be better then he's ever been a year after he's been worse then he's ever been.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Parallex

You'd still be betting that he'll be better then he's ever been a year after he's been worse then he's ever been.

In this case, it is a really good bet to take a chance on.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Karl

In this case, it is a really good bet to take a chance on.

No that's a bad bet to make under any circumstance. I mean.. I'm sure he'll improve his point total from last year but betting that he'll set a career high would be foolish.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Parallex

No that's a bad bet to make under any circumstance. I mean.. I'm sure he'll improve his point total from last year but betting that he'll set a career high would be foolish.

Betting that a 21 year old, that hasn't hit his stride in the NHL yet, will hit a career high is a bad bet? Do you seriously think an off year as a 20 year old is indicative of his ceiling?

Get some context.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Parallex

No that's a bad bet to make under any circumstance. I mean.. I'm sure he'll improve his point total from last year but betting that he'll set a career high would be foolish.

If we were talking about a career high in the thirties or forties, sure, but we are not. Last year ten forwards on the Flames roster scored +23 points. After the trade Lazar scored a goal and three points in his four games (+ one playoff game) with the Flames. It seems like a pretty good bet to think that he could be among the Flames top-ten scoring forwards this year.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Betting that a 21 year old, that hasn't hit his stride in the NHL yet, will hit a career high is a bad bet?

Betting that someone who hit 4 total points last year will hit a mark 4 points higher then his previous peak (20) is a bad bet. I'm sure he'll do better then 4 but I wouldn't bet the farm on 24.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Betting that someone who hit 4 total points last year will hit a mark 4 points higher then his previous peak (20) is a bad bet. I'm sure he'll do better then 4 but I wouldn't bet the farm on 24.

Mono nucleosis, it's a pain in the butt, just ask Lazar's 4 points!

I'm willing to wager a guess of 35 points for the kid this coming season.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm willing to wager a guess of 35 points for the kid this coming season.

I'll take that action....

Loser uses this as their avatar until the Cup is handed out

Agreed?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Betting that someone who hit 4 total points last year will hit a mark 4 points higher then his previous peak (20) is a bad bet. I'm sure he'll do better then 4 but I wouldn't bet the farm on 24.

Please learn to use then and than correctly.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Parallex

I'll take that action....

Loser uses this as their avatar until the Cup is handed out

Agreed?

Sure, you're on.

[christoph186]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Sure, you're on.

Ahh, a good ol' CP bet where no one has to eat pubes.. That is one ugly shirt though...