03-13-2016, 10:44 PM
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Why was moon ever banned? He was actually a pretty good contributor I thought. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said but he seemed to get the shaft by groupthink in some threads sometimes. People called him a troll but I think he honestly meant / thought what he wrote, and he was respectful from what I recall.
Anyway somebody please tell me that NBA ref thing is real... Because if so that's absolutely bat #### crazy hilariousness right there.
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03-13-2016, 10:44 PM
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#382
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damn onions
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Also is handgroen drunk?
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03-13-2016, 11:14 PM
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#383
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Franchise Player
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Edit: Sorry didn't see JiriHrdina's last post
Last edited by btimbit; 03-13-2016 at 11:16 PM.
Reason: nvm
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03-13-2016, 11:44 PM
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#384
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Farm Team Player
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Gary Buttman is going to drag this out until the day Wideman dies.
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03-14-2016, 12:19 AM
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#385
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by handgroen
the question still remains, what did the calgary flames buy with their $280,000.00?
Shocked that we haven't heard anything on the matter yet, doesn't even seem like it's being considered. Tier 1 season ticket holder speaking here. What did i just buy?
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Originally Posted by pepsifree
what do you mean?
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Originally Posted by sureloss
chris johnston @reporterchris
reducing dennis wideman's suspension by 10 games will save him a little more than $280,000 in salary.
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Originally Posted by lanny'sdaman
my question is, assuming kypreos is right, what are the flames' options here. they have paid for 9 games of wideman he wasn't able/allowed to play in. what sort of recourse does the team have at this juncture?
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03-14-2016, 12:37 AM
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#386
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Why was moon ever banned? He was actually a pretty good contributor I thought. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said but he seemed to get the shaft by groupthink in some threads sometimes. People called him a troll but I think he honestly meant / thought what he wrote, and he was respectful from what I recall.
Anyway somebody please tell me that NBA ref thing is real... Because if so that's absolutely bat #### crazy hilariousness right there.
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nvm
Last edited by calgaryblood; 03-14-2016 at 12:40 AM.
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03-14-2016, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Anyway somebody please tell me that NBA ref thing is real... Because if so that's absolutely bat #### crazy hilariousness right there.
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It is. You can go to their official website (NBRA.net), find the link to their Twitter feed, and get this:
https://twitter.com/OfficialNBARefs/...43276620791809
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03-14-2016, 02:31 AM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Wideman gets his money back I would think.
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03-14-2016, 07:24 AM
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#389
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Isnt the NBA the league that had at least one official convicted of fixing games?
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03-14-2016, 08:12 AM
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#390
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Because of the CBA that allows the NHL to read their messages....
Personally I'd just not hand over my phone and claim I lost it.
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So which app do you use?
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03-14-2016, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AC
Wideman gets his money back I would think.
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yeah he gets it back from the team, but the team gets nothing for the money they're giving wideman for the games he's not playing.
i feel like i'm taking crazy pills.
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03-14-2016, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by handgroen
yeah he gets it back from the team, but the team gets nothing for the money they're giving wideman for the games he's not playing.
i feel like i'm taking crazy pills.
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Well the team paid that money out regardless. Players aren't paid per game, they're paid per contract.
No different than if a player is a healthy scratch. The money still gets paid. It just gets paid somewhere else when they're suspended.
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03-14-2016, 09:11 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by handgroen
yeah he gets it back from the team, but the team gets nothing for the money they're giving wideman for the games he's not playing.
i feel like i'm taking crazy pills.
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I hear what you are saying, but it sure doesn't sound like the Flames are heading down a road of asking for compensation. I don't believe there are any actual grounds for compensation, although who knows how the league governs these sorts of things. It wouldn't be a CBA issue.
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03-14-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Why was moon ever banned? He was actually a pretty good contributor I thought. I didn't agree with a lot of what he said but he seemed to get the shaft by groupthink in some threads sometimes. People called him a troll but I think he honestly meant / thought what he wrote, and he was respectful from what I recall.
Anyway somebody please tell me that NBA ref thing is real... Because if so that's absolutely bat #### crazy hilariousness right there.
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I think it came down to the language he used when he was criticizing something in hockey. A player he doesn't like is garbage, a coach or management he doesn't like, a moron. Never backs down, impervious to facts, and hijacks every thread he's in from the blowback to his posts.
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03-14-2016, 11:46 AM
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#395
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Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
I hear what you are saying, but it sure doesn't sound like the Flames are heading down a road of asking for compensation. I don't believe there are any actual grounds for compensation, although who knows how the league governs these sorts of things. It wouldn't be a CBA issue.
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Burke said they were going to move on. He also didn't blame the league for the delay - he said it was simply the process, which now has to be reviewed and modified.
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03-14-2016, 12:28 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I'm somewhat disappointing the Flames didn't raise more hell over this. Yes I know we took the high road and said all the right things, but I really think some stronger words were needed.
It didn't have to be around anything to do with the actual hit (i.e. keep the refs out of it). All Burke would have had to say was the length of time it took this process was ridiculous, chewing up 19 game of the schedule, to come to a conclusion. That was WAY too long and both Wideman and the Flames are the people coming out of the process as "losers" even though the arbitrator essentially ruled in favour of Wideman.
I don't think anyone could have argued with those comments, and it would have given the organization a little more backbone. It just seems like we did the puppy tail between the legs move and didn't really stand up for ourselves.
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03-14-2016, 12:31 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Originally Posted by mrkajz44
Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I'm somewhat disappointing the Flames didn't raise more hell over this. Yes I know we took the high road and said all the right things, but I really think some stronger words were needed.
It didn't have to be around anything to do with the actual hit (i.e. keep the refs out of it). All Burke would have had to say was the length of time it took this process was ridiculous, chewing up 19 game of the schedule, to come to a conclusion. That was WAY too long and both Wideman and the Flames are the people coming out of the process as "losers" even though the arbitrator essentially ruled in favour of Wideman.
I don't think anyone could have argued with those comments, and it would have given the organization a little more backbone. It just seems like we did the puppy tail between the legs move and didn't really stand up for ourselves.
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Publicly eviscerating the league would have gotten them nowhere, it would have just got their back up. I have no doubt Burke is back channeling the hell out of this, though I doubt we ever see something come of it, officially anyway.
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03-14-2016, 12:32 PM
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#398
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Well the team paid that money out regardless. Players aren't paid per game, they're paid per contract.
No different than if a player is a healthy scratch. The money still gets paid. It just gets paid somewhere else when they're suspended.
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It's very different. One involves a choice made by the team and the other does not.
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03-14-2016, 12:38 PM
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It's very different. One involves a choice made by the team and the other does not.
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I guess I more-so mean a contract is not a guarantee of games played.
The money is paid out regardless of if he plays or not (insurance covers it if he's injured). And despite the arbitrators decision, he was suspended during that time (the arbitrators decision is basically a paper transaction that allows Wideman to recoup lost funds).
I don't know, maybe I don't feel as slighted by the league as some do so I'm not really getting the issue.
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