New Superman/Batman film

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I always thought that the whole point of Superman was that he was the most powerful being on Earth, but his strong moral code reined him in so that he wasn't an absolute despot.

Have you read the Injustice comics by chance? It's a cool storyline about Superman no longer holding back those moral convictions.

[GreenLantern]

It's official?:

After months of speculation and rumors, Variety reports that "Game of Thrones" actor Jason Momoa has been cast as Aquaman in Zack Snyder's upcoming "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice." Long rumored to be in talks to play the King of the Seven Seas, Momoa's casting as Aquaman marks the announcement of the first member of the Justice League in the DC Cinematic Universe since Gal Gadot was confirmed as Wonder Woman in December 2013.

He was also one of the main contenders for the role of Drax in "Guardians of the Galaxy," a role that eventually went to Dave Bautista

That has to sting right now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=54762


I like it, I think he will do a good job. I highly doubt he will ever be called Aquaman in the movie and will not resemble the comic book character at all. The only similarities will be the abilities and the rage, looking forward to his portrayal of Arthur Curry.

However, he now struggles with his lack of reputation with the greater public, which views him as a lesser metahuman with less impressive powers than those of his peers.[3] Also, in The New 52, Aquaman is once again a founding member of the Justice League and is a main member of the team.[52]

Interesting.. it seems like they have been preparing for this for a while now.


Edit: It seems that all of these websites are quoting the June 16th article.. so not sure if this is still official or not.. for now lets assume it is a leaked 'unofficial' announcement.

[Coys1882]

I thought Momoa passed on the Drax role because he wanted to direct something....

anyway - I like the casting.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I thought Momoa passed on the Drax role because he wanted to direct something....

anyway - I like the casting.

I think it'll work out better for both of them. I think Momoa makes a better Aquaman than Drax.

[sa226]

No doubt about it, Aquaman is a lame punchline weenie of a character.

But there is a chance that he could be one of the best surprises of this whole thing. Theyre pointed in the right direction with the new 52 version.

[Hack&Lube]

I feel like DC is heading toward character glut like the old Batman movies used to cram too many villains in.

Marvel did it the right way by introducing each character with their own feature. Now the Batman v. Superman movie will have Wonder Woman and Aquaman in it as well. Wonder Woman would have been okay as a female third but if they do Aquaman that means they are going to have to have at the minimum Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter as well!

[GreenLantern]

Apparently Wonder Woman has been classified as a 'cameo plus'.. so I don't expect she will have a major role outside of an introduction and maybe shows up to punch someone towards the end.

Same for Cyborg, maybe even an intro before he becomes cyborg, just as a link to CADMUS. We already had a glimpse of it in Man of Steel including the Guardian character.

I am guessing Arthur Curry will be in the post credits scene to intro JLA as I have said before, I can't see them trying to fit him in as well. Especially since he has never been known to really go under cover and in full atlantean gear with a trident he would stick out like a sore thumb.

But who knows, they also had Blaze comics so maybe Booster Gold is going to make an appearance!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sa226

That's the biggest thing that worries me about where DC is headed. They take their characters a little too seriously. Now that DC kinda has a direction and some guidance, they are attracting some quality people to the fold. I think we are going to get some pretty decent movies. But if early promotional stuff on BvS is any indication, its going to be another gritty sordid affair.

Is it too much to ask to make a DC movie thats a little fun?

I remember one of the head writers for DC making the comment in a MoS presser that Superman is such an iconic character that in his publication history he is written in a way that reflects the times in which they are living. I think MoS is kinda written that way. But is that really necessary? Superman is a silly character. Make him fun.

While I enjoyed MoS, I was semi confused by it. All of the trailers leading up to it, I thought nailed it. "You will give the people an ideal to strive towards, they will race behind you, they will stumble they will fall. But in time they will join you in the Sun. In time you will help them accomplish wonders." ......Then in the movie he destroys half a city and kills a dude.

Superman is a hard character. The Good 'ol Boy who can never lose.

You have to make him more serious because otherwise hes ridiculous.

[polak]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

It's official?:

That has to sting right now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=54762


I like it, I think he will do a good job. I highly doubt he will ever be called Aquaman in the movie and will not resemble the comic book character at all. The only similarities will be the abilities and the rage, looking forward to his portrayal of Arthur Curry.


Interesting.. it seems like they have been preparing for this for a while now.


Edit: It seems that all of these websites are quoting the June 16th article.. so not sure if this is still official or not.. for now lets assume it is a leaked 'unofficial' announcement.

Not casting Adrian Grenier as Aquaman will cripple DC for the forseeable future and I see them hanging on by a thread while selling off their more valuable assests and properties until they correct this horrific mistake.

[Finger Cookin]

Was anyone genuinely expecting a good JLA movie or build-up? I get hoping for one, but expecting one? Each announcement from DC further confirms that it's going to be horribly executed. Distilling a remotely watchable/enjoyable movie from this mess will be nothing short of miraculous. And that's before announcing silliness like Khal Aquaman and Cyborg and Xena Woman.

[GreenLantern]

I am expecting to be surprised by Affleck's Batman/Bruce Wayne.. I am also expecting that Drogo will show people Arthur Curry is a bad ass.

But ultimately I am expecting to be let down by the movie.

[Monahan23]

at the very least we get very good visuals from Zack Snyder as Batman and Superman fight. I think Ben Affleck will make a great Bruce Wayne and a good enough Batman. He looks the part. I have faith in DC's casting. Everyone hated Heath Ledger, Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway yet they were great. Still not sold on Jesse Eisenberg. A storyline with Cadmus would be nice. And short cameos for Wonder Woman and Aquaman.

And now matter how bad the movie is I'll be happy if this line happens

“You're beginning to get the idea, Clark. We could have changed the world…now…look at us…I've become a political liability…and…you…you're a joke. I want you to remember, Clark…in all the years to come…in your most private moments…I want you to remember…my hand…at your throat…I want…you to remember…the one man who beat you.”

[GreenLantern]

I have a feeling that we see Batman or Superman die in one of these movies down the road. I really, really hope they end up doing the Doomsday arc.

I also hope that DC tries to take more of the Jim Henson approach vs. the CGI motion capture. They have real characters and can use real actors.. so use real actors. I know Guardians is a massive hit but the thing that really took away from it for me is the over the top CGI. DC has a chance to be different on a few fronts here, don't be afraid to kill people and don't be afraid to explore costumes vs. computers.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I always thought that the whole point of Superman was that he was the most powerful being on Earth, but his strong moral code reined him in so that he wasn't an absolute despot. I'm waiting to see where they go with things, but Superman is kind of coming across as a bad guy who needs to be redeemed at this point. He's literally responsible for killing thousands of people and the genocide of the last members of his own race. I think that Christopher Reeve would have figured a way out of that.

That's the exact point of Superman.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

That's the exact point of Superman.

Has anyone told this to Zack Snyder?

[Monahan23]

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/batman-v...300837641.html

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I have a feeling that we see Batman or Superman die in one of these movies down the road. I really, really hope they end up doing the Doomsday arc.

I also hope that DC tries to take more of the Jim Henson approach vs. the CGI motion capture. They have real characters and can use real actors.. so use real actors. I know Guardians is a massive hit but the thing that really took away from it for me is the over the top CGI. DC has a chance to be different on a few fronts here, don't be afraid to kill people and don't be afraid to explore costumes vs. computers.

What is interesting about the doomsday arc? It's just a big fistfight. If you want to really reach for what it's about, beyond a publicity stunt, it's another clumsy Jesus metaphor designed to pander to middle America.

The biggest internal conflict Superman has dealing with the fact that he can't save everyone. So to make a good Superman movie, you need to give him a real dilemma. You force him to make decisions about who lives and who dies, and then living with the knowledge that there are things that even he, with all his powers, cannot stop. You place him at his lowest point.

But then you build him back up, have him save the day in the end with an understated heroism about him. Then you have him fly into space, smile for the camera, and let us the audience know that this incorruptible symbol for good is still there for us. Cue the goddamn John Williams.

Nobody wants to make that movie though... I'd go see that every week it was in theatres utio it came out on Blu Ray. But I guess I'm just one of those people who likes Superman - it wouldn't do to make one for us.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

What is interesting about the doomsday arc? It's just a big fistfight. If you want to really reach for what it's about, beyond a publicity stunt, it's another clumsy Jesus metaphor designed to pander to middle America.

The biggest internal conflict Superman has dealing with the fact that he can't save everyone. So to make a good Superman movie, you need to give him a real dilemma. You force him to make decisions about who lives and who dies, and then living with the knowledge that there are things that even he, with all his powers, cannot stop. You place him at his lowest point.

But then you build him back up, have him save the day in the end with an understated heroism about him. Then you have him fly into space, smile for the camera, and let us the audience know that this incorruptible symbol for good is still there for us. Cue the goddamn John Williams.

Nobody wants to make that movie though... I'd go see that every week it was in theatres utio it came out on Blu Ray. But I guess I'm just one of those people who likes Superman - it wouldn't do to make one for us.

And that is exactly how you use Doomsday. You have Superman know that Doomsday is out destroying the JLA and heading towards Metropolis while Luthor or Braniac or another major villain has a noose wrapped around someone he loves. What are you going to do Supes? Save Lois Lane and let Doomsday destroy Metro? Or save your city and let Lois die? The JLA are dropping like flies, clocks ticking buddy.

I would never have Doomsday as the only villain, just like there should have been more to Bane in the final Batman movie (and Ra's daughter). But he can serve a great purpose, and in the end if he does take Superman to the edge they can grip our emotions as Supes makes the choice of a life time and we the audience having seen this arc before will expect a death, or should we? Will they change it for the movies? Does he even choose to save Metropolis over Lois?

When he snapped Zod's neck I could not help but say What the (3@!!!!! right in the theatre.. Superman ... killed someone? Pretty clear they are trying to separate this Superman from the one we are used to seeing. What if he does choose Lois over Metropolis and some of the JLA survive, what do you think Batman would have to say about that choice? Lots of different ways to go with this..

[Harry Lime]

Lantern fight! Lantern fight!

The best superhero movies have a well defined villain.

Dark Knight, Captain America 2 : Winter Soldier, Superman; X-Men 2, Spiderman 2

or sometimes you can get away with a cool origin story such as Guardians or Iron Man, but it doesn't last. Green Lantern's Paralax was just a fear-mongering space glob, Dark Knight Returns would have been 100 times better if Bane was balanced by more than baby al-Ghul. The list goes on and on where the production team shortchanges a villain and the result is that there's no conflict in the movie. I can go on, but my general thought is....

Please take you're time with Lex Luthor. Please make the Riddler the most complicated character of all time. Humanize Sinestro's motivations instead of just plopping a yellow ring on him. We've lived with most of the big DC heroes for most of our lives. We know them. Spend time on the villains. If they are dedicated to it, they could make any villain terrifying. More often than not, the villain is a stock character, and honestly those movies are difficult to watch.

[Hemi-Cuda]

You forgot Thor/Avengers and Loki, probably the best comic book movie villain to date. He's pretty much the only villain we've seen so far that has plot armor, fans would probably riot if Marvel killed him off