I think they are being too hard on Wolf there. People often say "Thank God", "Thank Goodness", "Thank the Lord", "Thank My Lucky Stars", without attaching much meaning to it. Just common expressions. Wolf is not pushing any agenda as far as I can tell.
I think they are being too hard on Wolf there. People often say "Thank God", "Thank Goodness", "Thank the Lord", "Thank My Lucky Stars", without attaching much meaning to it. Just common expressions. Wolf is not pushing any agenda as far as I can tell.
no they are being realistic when talkng about his buffoonery, he said:
...and I guess ya gotta thank the lord...right?
pause
...do ya thank that lord for that split second decision?
I...I..I..Im actually an atheist.
Big diff. he didnt walk up to her and say Thank God your alright!
Last edited by Cheese; 05-23-2013 at 11:29 AM.
The Following User Says Thank You to Cheese For This Useful Post:
You're right. The parents of dead kids and family members should just deal with it. Again, I fully agree with him, do you need to take that time as opposed to any other time and poke their fresh emotions?
No, what the quote is saying is that religion can been a positive force in people lives. And if it is a positive force in people lives it really doesn't matter whether or not the deity exists or not. They are better for having religion
The problem is that religion isn't just a positive force.
If you're gay and live in the US, it's a very negative force. If you are in Africa seeking birth control it's a negative force. If you tell your daughter she can grow up to be anything, and she wants to be a Catholic priest, it's a negative force.
So when there are so many negatives associated with religion, and the only response when asked about those negatives is "it's Gods will". then it DEFINITELY matters if God exists or not.
__________________
"Isles give up 3 picks for 5.5 mil of cap space.
Oilers give up a pick and a player to take on 5.5 mil."
-Bax
You're right. The parents of dead kids and family members should just deal with it. Again, I fully agree with him, do you need to take that time as opposed to any other time and poke their fresh emotions?
The point is, "the timing was 100% correct", if he waited for a month the thought wouldnt be the same. Its not like all of the parents or people dealing with these issues are on Twitter reading this ayways.
The Following User Says Thank You to Cheese For This Useful Post:
The point is, "the timing was 100% correct", if he waited for a month the thought wouldnt be the same. Its not like all of the parents or people dealing with these issues are on Twitter reading this ayways.
I'm not delving any further into this, but sometimes compassion and understanding > funny.
If you can make a few laughs at the expense of grieving people, it's it worth it? Is there not a better time to point out the follies of someone's so held beliefs than after a tragedy? You're not pointing out how silly their hat is, your making fun of their entire misguided worldview and what gives them comfort. Maybe not the right time is all in saying
He is not attacking those suffering, just those "sending prayers" to the victims.
Its perfectly right to mock them, I'm sure the victims would appreciate the financial help over any prayers, and its so often said "We are praying for you" which is as pointless as when people say you are in my thoughts, when it comes to actually doing something.
__________________ Allskonar fyrir Aumingja!!
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Thor For This Useful Post:
I wouldn't be surprised that once everybody gets set up like red cross and other charities that they each would donate directly to that relief.
I mean I hate how Christians are always using disasters as a way to promote their religion and at the same time as making themselves look good.... oh wait. Gervais is taking advantage of a tragedy to casually mention his superiority.
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
Exp:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
If you can make a few laughs at the expense of grieving people, it's it worth it?
Is he really trying to make people laugh, or is he making a point that needs to be made? It's like the whole "thoughts and prayers" meme on here for a while, or the endless Facebook "causes" where you click on "like", maybe make a 1 sentence comment, then go back to doing whatever you were doing before you felt that 5 seconds of vague sympathy.
Praying for someone doesn't do jack. If that's all you have, shut up about it, because the only one you're making feel better is yourself for "caring". Less talk, more action.
__________________
Better educated sadness than oblivious joy.
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jammies For This Useful Post:
I mean I hate how Christians are always using disasters as a way to promote their religion and at the same time as making themselves look good.... oh wait. Gervais is taking advantage of a tragedy to casually mention his superiority.
It was a simple tweet, he wasn't taking advantage of a disaster to act superior.
As the article from above says:
Quote:
Subsequent tweets from Gervais included donation instructions along with a new hashtag:
The problem is that religion isn't just a positive force.
If you're gay and live in the US, it's a very negative force. If you are in Africa seeking birth control it's a negative force. If you tell your daughter she can grow up to be anything, and she wants to be a Catholic priest, it's a negative force.
So when there are so many negatives associated with religion, and the only response when asked about those negatives is "it's Gods will". then it DEFINITELY matters if God exists or not.
I agree that their are negative aspects of religion but that wasn't what was being discussed. The original assertion was that people are stupid because they believe. My point is that there are many people whose lives are better because of religion, who gain strength in it and since they take strength in it it doesn't matter if a deity exists they still get a benefit.
Think of it as a placebo, is a person stupid for taking it? or if they get a benefit does it matter that it is just a sugar pill for that individual.
I agree that their are negative aspects of religion but that wasn't what was being discussed. The original assertion was that people are stupid because they believe. My point is that there are many people whose lives are better because of religion, who gain strength in it and since they take strength in it it doesn't matter if a deity exists they still get a benefit.
Think of it as a placebo, is a person stupid for taking it? or if they get a benefit does it matter that it is just a sugar pill for that individual.
If that placebo causes said people to:
-ignore reality and argue against facts
- knock on people's doors soliciting their choice
- use that said choice as a method of child rearing
- use that said choice as a method of education
Then it = stupid no matter which version of sugar pill.
The problem is that religion isn't just a positive force.
If you're gay and live in the US, it's a very negative force. If you are in Africa seeking birth control it's a negative force. If you tell your daughter she can grow up to be anything, and she wants to be a Catholic priest, it's a negative force.
So when there are so many negatives associated with religion, and the only response when asked about those negatives is "it's Gods will". then it DEFINITELY matters if God exists or not.
If you're a girl anywhere, it's a negative force.
__________________
Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GirlySports For This Useful Post:
