08-17-2012, 01:09 PM
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#381
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Big Chill
You think Chelsea will finish out of the top 4? I have a hard time seeing Arsenal or Tottenham finishing ahead of Chelsea unless they make a big move here in the last two weeks of the transfer window.
I think:
1) Man U
2) Man C
3) Chelsea
4) Arsenal
5) Tottenham
6) Liverpool
7) Newcastle
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I don't. I was just trolling you (LFC 9th), but after your very reasonable reply, I feel bad.
I agree EXACTLY with your top 6. I think Everton will be 7th.
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08-17-2012, 01:10 PM
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#382
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Right now, Spurs are a better team on paper than Arsenal. That being said...we're Spurs.
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08-17-2012, 01:12 PM
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#383
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Franchise Player
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do people not remember Chelsea last year?
they still have bad goalie, weak back 4, and no actual central midfielders
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08-17-2012, 01:13 PM
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#384
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
I don't. I was just trolling you (LFC 9th), but after your very reasonable reply, I feel bad.
I agree EXACTLY with your top 6. I think Everton will be 7th.
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Haha, I've gotten way too used to people giving me the gears about my team. I hardly react anymore (which is sad).
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08-17-2012, 01:14 PM
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#385
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Franchise Player
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I think the top 7 is tiered
Man City
Man United
Spurs/Arsenal/Chelsea
Liverpool
Newcastle
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08-17-2012, 01:16 PM
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#386
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I believe in the Jays.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
do people not remember Chelsea last year?
they still have bad goalie, weak back 4, and no actual central midfielders
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I just think that they have improved their team a little bit while Arsenal and Spurs haven't improved and may even be worse off.
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08-17-2012, 01:16 PM
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#387
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that's all dependent on transfer though
i.e I don't see any of the London group jumping up to Man Utd but they could move ahead of the other 2 before the end of August
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08-17-2012, 01:36 PM
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#388
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I believe in the Jays.
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@clint_dempsey There are two sides to the story.
@clint_dempsey The truth will come out soon.
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08-17-2012, 01:53 PM
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#389
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
do people not remember Chelsea last year?
they still have bad goalie, weak back 4, and no actual central midfielders
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They're also banking pretty hard on Torres being able to carry the offense. I'm sure he'll have a better year, but they need him to step up.
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08-17-2012, 02:30 PM
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#390
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
do people not remember Chelsea last year?
they still have bad goalie, weak back 4, and no actual central midfielders
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What are you on about?
Petr Cech is a bad goalie? Only a few years back, had one of the greatest goalkeeping seasons in the EPL EVER.
Weak back 4? Cole,Terry, Cahill and Ivanonic are hardly weak.
Central midfielder - I assume they're banking on Hazzard. That's the riskiest part of the 11. Has Mata ever played in a central role?
Last edited by cam_wmh; 08-17-2012 at 02:34 PM.
Reason: I'm being trolled right? I'm not a Blues fan! lol
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08-17-2012, 02:33 PM
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#391
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf
also everywhere is saying Alex Song won't be an Arsenal player by Monday
with no mention of any replacement
Arsene is undoing any good will he got by bringing in Cazolra/Giroud/Podolski
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As long as he brings in a true defensive mid, I think we'll be golden. The Sahin talk is interesting, he doesn't appear to fit the bill and that makes one wonder what's Arsene's plan. He'd be willing to spend the money but would be spending it on a different type of player.
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08-17-2012, 02:35 PM
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#392
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Franchise Player
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Does anyone remember Tottenham last year?
Their goalie is a fossil. One notable defender. Their midfield is a mess.
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08-17-2012, 02:44 PM
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#393
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
Does anyone remember Tottenham last year?
Their goalie is a fossil. One notable defender. Their midfield is a mess.
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A midfield of Sandro, Huddlestone, Bale, Lennon, and Parker is a mess?
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08-17-2012, 02:47 PM
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#394
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
Does anyone remember Tottenham last year?
Their goalie is a fossil. One notable defender. Their midfield is a mess.
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I know you are just trolling but out of interest out of Walker, Vertognen, Dawson and BAE who is the one notable defender?
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08-17-2012, 02:47 PM
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#395
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
A midfield of Sandro, Huddlestone, Bale, Lennon, and Parker is a mess?
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See I can do it too. 
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08-17-2012, 03:06 PM
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#396
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
I know you are just trolling but out of interest out of Walker, Vertognen, Dawson and BAE who is the one notable defender?
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None of them.
Gallas is notable 
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08-17-2012, 03:38 PM
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#397
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
What are you on about?
Petr Cech is a bad goalie? Only a few years back, had one of the greatest goalkeeping seasons in the EPL EVER.
Weak back 4? Cole,Terry, Cahill and Ivanonic are hardly weak.
Central midfielder - I assume they're banking on Hazzard. That's the riskiest part of the 11. Has Mata ever played in a central role?
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Cech was great, key word was. He hasn't been for 3 years
when I say weak I say it comparatively, that back 4 you just mentioned isn't as good as
Evra/Vidic/Evans/Valencia
Kolarov/Kompany/Lescott/Richards
BAE/Vertonghen/Kaboul/Walker
Gibbs/Verm/Koscielny/Sagna
Enrique/Agger/Skrtel/Johnson
weaker than the 5 teams they are likely competing with, definitely. Better than Southampton/Wigan etc.? sure
Hazard nor Mata are CM's
they are going to play a 4-2-3-1
the 3 of any of Mata/Hazard/Marin/Sturridge should be very strong, the 1 of Torres is debatable
but the 4 and 2 are average outside Cole and Ramires
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08-17-2012, 03:42 PM
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#398
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Ramires too isn't even suited for a role in front of the back 4 but he is by far the best option they have
Lampard is past it, Mikel never had it, and Essien has sadly has his career effectively ruined by injuries
forgot about Oscar but he's a number 10 as well, so included in the group behind the striker
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08-17-2012, 03:52 PM
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#399
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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well Meireles isn't that bad.
Oh, and forget about Marin - he simply isn't good enough. Actually pretty shocked that Chelsea forked out that amount of money for him. He was promising a few years ago, but his development just stalled. He basically lost his spot in Bremen last season.
Last edited by devo22; 08-17-2012 at 03:55 PM.
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08-17-2012, 03:59 PM
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#400
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
well Meireles isn't that bad.
Oh, and forget about Marin - he simply isn't good enough. Actually pretty shocked that Chelsea forked out that amount of money for him. He was promising a few years ago, but his development just stalled. He basically lost his spot in Bremen last season.
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Meireles is good, but apparently hes doing to Chelsea what he did to Liverpool, as soon as they sign some midfielders he wants out.
Quote:
Di Matteo is also keeping his cards close to his chest when it comes to Meireles, with the latest reports suggesting the Portuguese midfielder is a target for Tottenham.
He said: "He's with us. He's going to be with us at the weekend."
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