NHL 13 Thread

[bubbsy]

i just watched it again.

I can't believe EA even released this vid. Like there are So many terrible things on display there.

at least madden looks decent this year.

I'd be happy to hear that EA is stopping all production on current gen NHL games, and are now working on next gen NHL, so no annual NHL games coming out.

They had a good product then basically the anual upgrade has been pretty meh year in and year out for the past 3 years in my opinion. they seem to be Diluting the integrity and shine of the EA NHL brand.

[kirant]

Wow. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between 12 and 13.

Sticking with a heavily edited sliders in NHL 12 will work just fine for me.

[Esoteric]

I thought it looked pretty good, you guys are crazy.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

I thought it looked pretty good, you guys are crazy.

care to share what you found amazing? i think what most people are complaining about is that even though we have been told ad nauseum the last few weeks about how much time they spent on the AI and how revolutionary the skating control is, that the gameplay looks exactly the same as always. thats whats disappointing...

[Red John]

Those planning on purchasing the game should prepare to do a total ratings overhaul.

They are quite bad.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I wish they'd spend less money and time on visuals and graphics and more on gameplay and game modes.

That's a strange compliant since EA hasn't made a really major upgrade to the visuals in any year really. Just steps-by-steps if anything. This is the first year presentation has gotten any type of real attention since they began this generation.

I would say they have done what you asked of them to do. Focus on gameplay and game modes.

[Reanimate]

Wow, what a waste of time buying this game is gonna be. Are you ####ing serious that that is the best they could do for this year. That is NHL12 with a better skating boost and mildly improved graphics. That's a no buy for me right there.

That and couldn't they take five minutes to edit this guys annoying stuttering out of the audio.

Edit: watched a bit more. The hitting and contact physics are just as flawed as they ever were. Bump a player and they effectively go blind to the puck for 2 seconds. How hard is it to code puck tracking and contact physics at the same time.

I can tell by watching more of the clip that the referees are still broken. Jeffery is leveled in front of the net after Lovejoy takes the shot and the puck is in the corner, no call. Another hugely craptacular glitch in NHL12.

If they actually brought a coach in to tell them how hockey players should play, they should get a refund, because NHL13 has exact same ######ed looking hockey AI IQ as all the previous ones.

Nothing worthwhile has changed. This is a pass for me.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Joborule

That's a strange compliant since EA hasn't made a really major upgrade to the visuals in any year really. Just steps-by-steps if anything. This is the first year presentation has gotten any type of real attention since they began this generation.

I would say they have done what you asked of them to do. Focus on gameplay and game modes.

ya, i think that's why the hype was really picking up for nhl 13, it looked the gameplay changes actually enhanced the game play.

Joborule, have you been able to play nhl13 yet? Are we overreacting to that vid, and the feel of the game does alter the way you play to give the impression of improved game play?

What were your thoughts on this vid?

[Traditional_Ale]

I've bitched about it every year since I joined CP...

Is there multi-player manager mode yet?

ESPN 2K had it nailed circa 2K5-6-7.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I wouldn't read into that video too much guys. First of all, those guys were terrible demonstrators and terrible players. Second of all, a person who is good at the game should probably see a lot better flow overall than what they showed.

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

I've bitched about it every year since I joined CP...

Is there multi-player manager mode yet?

ESPN 2K had it nailed circa 2K5-6-7.

Do you mean like a Be A GM mode, because they've implemented an online GM mode where you can GM against people online. It's called GM Connected.

[FlamesKickAss]

Originally Posted by dobbles

to me the first goal scored in the demo is exactly whats wrong with the game. the penguins guy makes the good play and hit the flyers guy. he then bounces right back as if nothing ever happened and wrists a super weak shot past the goalie. the game once again rewards poor play by the forward with a goal. its the same reason that year after year online you see guys deke and dangle through an entire team and then score.

where was the good play? the first guy in the corner missed the hit and the guy on the point man ran into him, didnt go for the hit.

looked okay to me, you guys are just looking for waaaay too much. How can you really tell the gameplay by watching a video?

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

ya, i think that's why the hype was really picking up for nhl 13, it looked the gameplay changes actually enhanced the game play.

Joborule, have you been able to play nhl13 yet? Are we overreacting to that vid, and the feel of the game does alter the way you play to give the impression of improved game play?

What were your thoughts on this vid?

I haven't played it yet. First time I do will be when you guys do with the demo. However I think you guys are being a bit overly critical in regards to AI since these are human controlled players dictating the play. Can't strongly judge AI unless you're playing against the CPU since they'll be doing everything under their own intentions.

[bspec]

I don't mind the things EA did to NHL 13 to improve it. While at a glance it's similar to NHL 12, the presentation is much improved and the added puck physics is nice too. Still, a lot of these improvements like the lighting/shadows and faces will be overlooked unless you're actually looking for these things.

It doesn't help that the two people playing weren't very good and the puck size is on large with a shadow. That really bugs me. Authentic all the way.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I think it looks good. Yeah it looks fairly similar to 12 but lets not judge until we have played it ourselves.

[Reanimate]

I was quite angry sounding in that last post. I'm not even certain why.

[3 Justin 3]

Wow, the game hasn't even been released yet and people are already bitching about how the game is the exact same. Over react much? I don't blame you guys that much as the previous iterations haven't been that big of a step forward.

I'll reserve judgement until release though. The videos always look the same to me.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Joborule

I haven't played it yet. First time I do will be when you guys do with the demo. However I think you guys are being a bit overly critical in regards to AI since these are human controlled players dictating the play. Can't strongly judge AI unless you're playing against the CPU since they'll be doing everything under their own intentions.

Fair enough.

The last few vids released showed a totally different quality of change, and this one didn't seem to live upto it.

I'm out of town (in calgary actually) for the next 4 weeks, so i won't even get to play the demo, so will be looking for feedback here.

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

The hitting is the worst part of the game. Every hit is a huge train wreck and usually the guy hitting is down for 2 seconds while the guy getting hit is up instantly and has control of the puck.

This drives me nuts

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by FlamesKickAss

where was the good play? the first guy in the corner missed the hit and the guy on the point man ran into him, didnt go for the hit.

looked okay to me, you guys are just looking for waaaay too much. How can you really tell the gameplay by watching a video?

the good play was separating the man from the puck with the hit. thats really the only play there ever has been in ea games because poke check and stick lift are often ineffective. (though they claim to have once again improved that) my point is that the defensive player got in the right spot and laid the body on the guy, but because the logic of the game continues to be totally flawed and unrealistic, the offensive player just pretends it never happened and scores a goal.



for all of you saying its too early to judge, how do you figure? the video is over 8 minutes long. thats a couple of periods for most people that play on the shorter time lengths. and probably everyone here has played hundreds of hours of nhl games over the years and know what we are looking at. its not that hard to judge whether the ai in the gameplay is the same as what we have seen for several years on this gen of consoles or is something different. in 8 minutes i can make a pretty good assessment if what i see is exactly the same as i have been seeing for the last 4 years.

and it doesnt matter if it was 2 humans playing or if they were poor players. (which i do agree they were) because even with 2 humans playing the ai still controls 10 of the 12 players on the ice at a time. thats a pretty good gauge of what the ai will be doing in the game.

and besides if people complain when the demo or game comes out it always reduces to "you just suck" or "your sliders are wrong" or whatever else lame excuse people make. i genuinely have no idea how to glitch or cheese. i never have. i have no desire. i legitimately like to play realistic hockey. i just wish once ea would actually move more towards that. with all their promises this summer, i thought maybe they had. after seeing those 8 minutes of play, i think they were just blowing smoke as usual...

[Flash Walken]

Yeah, if you cut across the high slot with your head down looking to wrist it on net and someone Mike Richard's your ass, it's probably unlikely you'll just stay on your skates, pick the puck back up and send it top-cheese.

Looks like the same game with increased poke effectiveness.