Canada Post Strike

[Byrns]

Originally Posted by darklord700

Assuming a CUPW makes $50K a year. 3% increase is $1,500 a year. At 25/hr, this worker will lose $200 a day so he can go on strike for roughly 7 1/2 day before breaking even in one year.

If the contract is for 3 years, this worker can afford to strike for 22 1/2 day before losing out.

Mind you they're screwed if they live pay cheque to pay cheque.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Goddamnit now this means my package is going to be sitting at customs forever.

I hope they get this #### solved quick. I order like 1 package a year and now I'm stuck without it.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Goddamnit now this means my package is going to be sitting at customs forever.

I hope they get this #### solved quick. I order like 1 package a year and now I'm stuck without it.

Me too! I ordered something on Sunday thinking: Rotating strike and 3 delivery days per week... it should still be ok. Then I hear they got locked out!!

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[Dion]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

But I should fall for the crap you are spewing? No thanks, I will make up my own mind on the issue.

I sincerely hope you do and don't take what the union leadership takes as the truth. I worked for 20 years in a union enviroment and found that the leadership tends to distort the truth to fit thier agenda. Saying the lockout is going to hurt the members while ignoring how thier rotating strikes has hurt business owners is pure BS. We the public want nothing to do with your beefs against CP. Keep us out of it - thank you!

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Byrns

Mind you they're screwed if they live pay cheque to pay cheque.

Yeah. Calculate in the interest for a payday loan or re-connection fees when the power gets cut-off.

Even given the 7 day scenario, losing a week of pay to make it up in a year is pretty pointless. Considering you've made up your wages based on the old pay rate, it negates the raise for that year. If they're on strike for a month, it negates the raise for the entire contract. So you're now working for 3 years at the same rate as last year.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Goddamnit now this means my package is going to be sitting at customs forever.

I hope they get this #### solved quick. I order like 1 package a year and now I'm stuck without it.

Word is the Feds are going to legislate the Posties back to work once they've delt with the Air Canada situation.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Slava

Aren't a lot of the raises retro-active though? Seems like the money is recovered in that sense?

Not the wages lost while on the picket line.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Dion

All wages lost during a strike are never recovered. In the long run this strike is really going to hurt the workers. Business owners will find other ways to get mail and parcels delivered. Once they've done that the chances are very few will return to CP when the strike is over.

Don't fall the crap your union has been spewing.

How much do members pay in monthly union dues? Last I read it was around $70 in 2008? CUPW site cites 54,000 members. If you have 54,000 workers paying $70 x 12 months = $45,360,000 the Union is making every year. What does it do with all that money???

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

How much do members pay in monthly union dues? Last I read it was around $70 in 2008? CUPW site cites 54,000 members. If you have 54,000 workers paying $70 x 12 months = $45,360,000 the Union is making every year. What does it do with all that money???

Laywers bills, paying for union events, meetings, etc. Emergency funds for strikes so workers can eek out a meager income (ie a few hundred dollars a month).

$70 is probably on the low end. The average I've seen is around $100/mo.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

Laywers bills, paying for union events, meetings, etc. Emergency funds for strikes so workers can eek out a meager income (ie a few hundred dollars a month)/.

$70 is probably on the low end. The average I've seen is around $100/mo.

Supporting their political interests, donating money to their political party of choice.

Paying their union heads huge salaries and bonuses.

[Devils'Advocate]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Supporting their political interests, donating money to their political party of choice.

Paying their union heads huge salaries and bonuses.

But when corporations do the same thing, that's super duper okily dokily. CEOs make far more in salary and bonuses than union bosses. And corporate lobbyists have far more political clout than unions.

[bomber317]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

But when corporations do the same thing, that's super duper okily dokily. CEOs make far more in salary and bonuses than union bosses. And corporate lobbyists have far more political clout than unions.

CEOs makes the company far more money than union bosses.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate

But when corporations do the same thing, that's super duper okily dokily. CEOs make far more in salary and bonuses than union bosses. And corporate lobbyists have far more political clout than unions.

CEO's should make more money then union bosses, for the most part they work to create a profitable environment, make money for their share holders, try to expand the business which creates new jobs.

Union heads on the other hand are destructive.

As a voting member of a union, whould you be ok with your union supporting radical causes in the middle east? Companies that I work for might contribute to political parties and agenda's that I don't agree with, but at least I'm not footing the bill with it by having it taken out of my paycheck without my input.

[Displaced Flames fan]

As of the close of business tomorrow, the US Postal Service will not be accepting any mail destined for Canada except Global Express Guaranteed mail.

GXG, for short, is transported and delivered by FedEx, which is why the service is still available.

Just a heads up from the States.

[steve954]

I ordered a phone from ebay and now it's stuck in Vancouver. FUUUuuuuhhh

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

As of the close of business tomorrow, the US Postal Service will not be accepting any mail destined for Canada except Global Express Guaranteed mail.

GXG, for short, is transported and delivered by FedEx, which is why the service is still available.

Just a heads up from the States.

We'll still get our packages sent before then though right? It just might take a very long time...

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by STeeLy

Me too! I ordered something on Sunday thinking: Rotating strike and 3 delivery days per week... it should still be ok. Then I hear they got locked out!!

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

+1 The rotating strike didn't bother me at all. Anything I'm sending by Canada Post isn't valuable/urgent enough to need 5 days a week delivery.

The full lockout though is definitely a PITA.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by steve954

I ordered a phone from ebay and now it's been looted in Vancouver. FUUUuuuuhhh

fixed.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Dion

Not the wages lost while on the picket line.

In a lot of cases after the strike is over the union members will have a backlog of vacation time to clear through. There isn't enough time left in the year for everyone to take their allotted days so the corporation will pay members to surrender some of them. I am not sure if that is the case with Canada Post, but it does happen.

As a side note, I have been reading the board for a while and finally decided to contribute.

[OilKiller]

Had to send some cheques to my new landlord in another province today. Cost me $34 via UPS. Thanks Canada Post...