Thermogenic fat burners

[Devils'Advocate]

Sorry.... I meant that I don't buy that walking doesn't help you burn fat.

Livestrong, Loseit!, pencil and paper... they all work.... Good luck with it!

[Discoste]

Originally Posted by Sample00

umm, I am walking just not running. I'm on a treadmill everyday M-F for at least one half hour and then I walk 4-6KM outside on S and S. I can run for short bursts but not up to prolonged running yet. So, when you say, "I dont buy it", I'm not sure I know what you mean.

good stuff! keep at it.

One method that helped my friend improve was during their regular walk, they picked a landmark (bench, tree, sign, lamppost) then ran to the next lamp post/tree, then after resumed walking. He did this couple times during a walk. Then 2-3 weeks later he would try to run a bit further to the 2nd landmark.

By doing this it showed him is fitness was improving (not just at the scale). To him, those small challenges and victories help kept him motivated, and sparked that natural competitiveness.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Discoste

good stuff! keep at it.

One method that helped my friend improve was during their regular walk, they picked a landmark (bench, tree, sign, lamppost) then ran to the next lamp post/tree, then after resumed walking. He did this couple times during a walk. Then 2-3 weeks later he would try to run a bit further to the 2nd landmark.

By doing this it showed him is fitness was improving (not just at the scale). To him, those small challenges and victories help kept him motivated, and sparked that natural competitiveness.

awesome, great idea.
I'll use it!

[Prototype]

Avoid those doughnuts, Axel... COME ON!!!

[Gundo]

If you can go see a Nutritionist, I sat down with one about 3 weeks ago and he was a HUGE help for me. Finding out its not only how much I eat but what kinds of Lean Proteins and Carbs Im getting are a big advantage as well. Currently Im eating at 7am-9:30am-12:30pm-3:30pm-6pm-8pm with a Protein shake after work outs and Ive been on about a 4-5lbs a week weight loss pace right now. The most important meal of the day is actually your post workout meal that allows you muscles the proteins they need to rebuild. Quicker rebuild=more muscle=more weight loss.


If you'd like to see what my meal plan looks like I can actually email you a copy, Im 6'2" and was 245lbs but am now a slender 236lbs If you around that body size or even larger it should work quite well for you.

As for Thermogenic fat burners, they can aid in weight loss yes. But thye are most so a short term kick in the pants rather than a long term stepping stone. Do some research on side effects of using Ephedrine/Caffeine stacks. I personally have used a couple over the counter types Stacker & Hydroxycut and they may have helped abit they more so had me wired and sweating through the day and I felt very blah for a couple of weeks after stopping them. I have used a couple "other" types as well Clenbuterol and Cytomel and stay away from that crap they do nothing but make you a jittery sweaty mess.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Sample00

so whats your take on Protein shakes for weight loss?

Agree with what valo wrote. I don't see it being necessary with your goals. If you're doing a fair amount of strength training, protein will help your muscles build and supplemental shakes offer more than diet alone.

For weight loss, it's just adding calories. That's not to say you don't want a good amount of protein in your diet, which you still do; just you likely don't need the extra of shakes.

[CaptainCrunch]

Drink chocolate milk after a workout, you get enough protein in that.

Less calories then a protein shake

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Drink chocolate milk after a workout, you get enough protein in that.

Less calories then a protein shake

I love chocolate milk and it's a steady part of my workout diet, but it actually has more calories than most whey scoops, and far more carbs.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Prototype

Avoid those doughnuts, Axel... COME ON!!!

can't remember the last time I had one, TBQH

[Nage Waza]

This is very simple, no matter what anyone ever claims. Use more energy than you eat and you will lose weight. It is as simple as that. If you consume less calories than what you burn living you lose fat. There are formulas to figure out very close to what you are currently using.

If you are currently out of shape, then you have a whole lifestyle change to make as well. If that is the case, then time is not a factor, since you will have to maintain this lifestyle change for the rest of your life. You are either active or not, if you get the picture. If this is a lifestyle thing, then absolutely you can walk and slowly lose weight. If you are in a rush and want to lose at a fast rate, then you can certainly run kms daily! Add in the weight lifting you will spend the majority of your workout doing then you must include protein.

Don't look at this as a month or two, this should be your long term lifetime plan.

If you only eat protein and no carbs then you are entering the Atkin diet realm and I think there has been heart issues associated with that.

[Dion]

Add lane swimming to your exercise program. It's been working for me. I do 1kms or 40 laps everyday.

[Sample00]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

If you only eat protein and no carbs then you are entering the Atkin diet realm and I think there has been heart issues associated with that.

yup, not doing that. I have a pancreas that has screamed at me before for trying that.

this is a lifestyle change. One that had to be made. I'm ok with losing the weight slowly. Just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something.

[Nage Waza]

I don't think you are missing anything. Consider yourself done with your past, you are now doing things to make yourself healthier. Also, trying thinking of yourself as a publicly traded company. At the end of each day you should have increased your worth, and you base your worth on how healthy each day is. It is alright to have a pizza day, but you better have done the right things the rest of the day (just don't have too much pizza). The rest of the week should be very positive.

If this is truly a lifestyle thing, start thinking of what you used to do, and how you should do it. You will find a six inch turkey sub is rewarding simply by how good it is for you compared to the alternatives.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I'd recommend using a calorie logging software, if you're not already. Really helpful to keep track of everything. The "Lose It" app on the iphone is really good.

[Nage Waza]

The only difference between walking and running is how many calories you burn in an hour. If your time frame to lose the weight is long term, then walk! But if you walk, you have less margin of error, so every calorie you take in will have a greater magnitude.
The other thing that is important is the amount of calories it takes to live is highly dependent on how much muscle you have. You burn more with more muscles, so sitting around can help you lose weight! I highly recommend weight lifting as your major exercise.