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Old 11-15-2010, 05:03 PM   #21
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Some protesters against the execution in the Ukraine:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/847028-t...oning-sentence
I love Ukrainian protesters.

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A Pakistani cleric is offering a nearly $6,000 bounty for the killing of a Christian woman whose death sentence for blasphemy is being challenged by Pakistan's government.

"I will pay 500,000 rupees for the loyal follower of Muhammad who beheads Asia Bibi," Qureshi told a crowd of several hundred people. The amount is equivalent to about $5,800, or more than six times the country's average annual wage.

Moulana Yousaf Qureshi made his announcement at a Friday city in the northwestern city of Peshawar. He condemned any effort by Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari to pardon or release Asia Bibi (pictured) and said he and his followers will call on millions to protest if Pakistan's blasphemy laws are amended.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/1...s-head/?hpt=T2

The people of Pakistan should put this church leaders dead body on top of his mosque with urinals piped in over his head. In any civilised country this would be a charge of incitement to commit murder...but not these ######s.

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what a tolerant, moderating influence this wonderful religion is on the globe
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http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/1...s-head/?hpt=T2

The people of Pakistan should put this church leaders dead body on top of his mosque with urinals piped in over his head. In any civilised country this would be a charge of incitement to commit murder...but not these ######s.

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Old 12-06-2010, 07:35 AM   #25
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The difference being Tom Flanagan doesn't have thousands of people that follow him blindly and will actually do it if given the opportunity. Nor has he offered a large sum of money to an impoverished group of people to have it done.

Should Tom Flanagan be charged? Probably. Is there any chance this Cleric will be charged? None at all.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:48 AM   #26
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A sad day for free speech. It's insane that someone can't speak out against religion and voice thier opinion. I guess some of the Muslim faith have such a low self esteem of thier beliefs that they feel they have to report someone.
I wouldn't say it is just Muslims. The Catholic Church isn't any better.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:52 AM   #27
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Pakistan has continued it's 2 steps forward, 4 steps back routine since gaining indepenance.

Feel sorry for the people that live in places like this.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:01 AM   #28
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The owner of a convenience store down the street from me is from Pakistan and I asked him what he thought.

He said: "when I was a kid one of my buddy's family was of christian faith, one day the whole family disappeared and the fathers business was looted and burnt down. the police didn't even investigate".

"It was then I knew I needed to leave that country".
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Not a shock the edict came from Peshawar, a city in Pakistans tribal toilet. The whole northern frontier area bordering Afghanistan is full of these insane religious fanatics. Its almost to the point they should carpet bomb the entire area with B-52s. Even if you use precision ordinance to kill off the crazy militants, their kids will eventually grow up to be just as nuts.

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I wouldn't say it is just Muslims. The Catholic Church isn't any better.
What an idiotic statement. When was the last time you heard a Catholic priest offer a bounty to behead a person? Please tell us.
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:23 AM   #31
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I'm reading The End of Faith, and it does appear that the tenets of Islam are particularly incompatible with liberal democracy. There is a section of the book that lists every line, in order of appearance, where the Koran declares that infidels or apostates should be killed "in defense of Islam". The section lasts 3 or 4 pages.

The Koran and certain books in the Old Testament do not merely accept the murder of a blasphemer, they demand such action. I think that western people have a lot of difficulty comprehending the idea that people actually believe that these books contain the word of a higher power.
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The Koran is a tough nut, because like the old testiment things have to be taken on interpretation and faith.

But based on the way that certain passages are written, interpreting them singly is how the radical Iman's are able to convince radical Islam that its their duty to murder and kill anyone who either dosen't believe or stands opposed.

I believe it was rev Lovejoy in the Simpson's who was challenged by the whole God hates gays by Lisa said it was stated somewhere in the back of the bible.

In essence, while it talks about killing and taking hostages, there are also segments in the Koran that completely condemn the slaughter of innocents, and condemns the slaughter of hostages.
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The Koran is a tough nut, because like the old testiment things have to be taken on interpretation and faith.

But based on the way that certain passages are written, interpreting them singly is how the radical Iman's are able to convince radical Islam that its their duty to murder and kill anyone who either dosen't believe or stands opposed.

I believe it was rev Lovejoy in the Simpson's who was challenged by the whole God hates gays by Lisa said it was stated somewhere in the back of the bible.

In essence, while it talks about killing and taking hostages, there are also segments in the Koran that completely condemn the slaughter of innocents, and condemns the slaughter of hostages.
'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have
done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.' (Leviticus 20:13)
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Yes, thank you, I realize that passage was there. I was bringing up the example as to point out that radical religious figures gain thier power by interpreting the bible, the Koran, the book of Satan for people that don't want to read it themselves or think about it themselves.
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The difference being Tom Flanagan doesn't have thousands of people that follow him blindly and will actually do it if given the opportunity. Nor has he offered a large sum of money to an impoverished group of people to have it done.

Should Tom Flanagan be charged? Probably. Is there any chance this Cleric will be charged? None at all.
Tom Flanagan not only ran our Prime Minister's campaign, but also teaches, or indoctrinates, whichever word you use to describe it, the minds of thousands of young people through his publications and through his job as a professor. I think Flanagan has influence on more than thousands of hardline conservative, who are, by the way, no better than this radical cleric. People do what they can get away with unfortunately. Also, there are enough impoverished people living right here at home, and many of them here and down south are being offered money to carry out the agenda of government in far away places.

Tom Flanagan will not be charged. The Cleric will definitely not be charged. Do they both have the same intentions? Yes. My point in posting the link was to make the other poster think about what he was saying.
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What an idiotic statement. When was the last time you heard a Catholic priest offer a bounty to behead a person? Please tell us.
Ask the people of Yugoslavia how great and loving the Catholic priests were during the holocaust.

Please don't get me started, the Christian religion has just as dark a history as the Muslims..if not darker.
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Please don't get me started, the Christian religion has just as dark a history as the Muslims..if not darker.
True, but they do seem to have moved past it. Now, there are still problems with the Catholic church, of course, but you don't see their clergy offering bounties for other folks heads.
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True, but they do seem to have moved past it. Now, there are still problems with the Catholic church, of course, but you don't see their clergy offering bounties for other folks heads.
Yeah, they moved from "offing" heads to getting "off" with heads.
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Yeah, they moved from "offing" heads to getting "off" with heads.
But that's only a minor, world-wide, life-affecting problem that they refuse to hold anyone accountable for. Ain't no than but a chicken wang.
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True, but they do seem to have moved past it. Now, there are still problems with the Catholic church, of course, but you don't see their clergy offering bounties for other folks heads.
Easy

Catholic priest hires hitman to kill teen accuser.
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