Hang on a second. I'm not plugged into the Calgary election, mostly because I live in Edmonton, but why is Hawkswhatever getting the gears for being in a fued while Nenshi is being lauded for standing up to Hawksguy. They're both in the feud.
Btw, if you say anything like "he started it" your explanation gets thrown out.
Hawkesworth is an arrogant a$$, and his mind can't reconcile the fact that Calgarian's don't want him anywhere near the mayors chair. So he's lashing out.
You also gotta wonder if he's orchestrating this to try and help his buddy McIver... city council types sticking together.
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Hang on a second. I'm not plugged into the Calgary election, mostly because I live in Edmonton, but why is Hawkswhatever getting the gears for being in a fued while Nenshi is being lauded for standing up to Hawksguy. They're both in the feud.
Btw, if you say anything like "he started it" your explanation gets thrown out.
Nenshi has a huge home field advantage on CP, so it's natural. Personally, I'm inclined to like anyone pissing off members of the current council. One of the candidates could call Hawkesworth or McIver a kitten killing Nazi and I'd probably side with them.
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Hang on a second. I'm not plugged into the Calgary election, mostly because I live in Edmonton, but why is Hawkswhatever getting the gears for being in a fued while Nenshi is being lauded for standing up to Hawksguy. They're both in the feud.
Btw, if you say anything like "he started it" your explanation gets thrown out.
What if that's actually the reason?
Hawkesworth took 20 seconds out a one hour video to misrepresent Nenshi's position on Enmax. He's also been misrepresenting the cost of the airport tunnel. He's essentially been lying to the electorate.
For the most part Nenshi is actually not attacking Hawkesworth, but obviously when Hawkesworth is grossly misrepresenting positions he obviously has to issue some form of public rebuke.
You also gotta wonder if he's orchestrating this to try and help his buddy McIver... city council types sticking together.
I talked to Hawkesworth and I can ensure you that its not the case. The two are polar opposites and I don't think there's any respect between the two of them.
Hawkesworth is a desperate man who see's a 5% basic judgement on his lifes work as a municipal politician and fairly useless alderman and its turned him bitter.
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Hang on a second. I'm not plugged into the Calgary election, mostly because I live in Edmonton, but why is Hawkswhatever getting the gears for being in a fued while Nenshi is being lauded for standing up to Hawksguy. They're both in the feud.
Btw, if you say anything like "he started it" your explanation gets thrown out.
One person misrepresented something the other said.
The other person is making sure people know that it is a misrepresentation, not what he actually said/meant.
The fact that there is a "feud" is really not an issue. Imagine someone came into your office and started ripping on you for something you didn't do, would you sit there and take it or explain they had incorrect facts? You disputing the statements wouldn't make you a bad guy, it just means you are not a doormat.
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The answer is obvious: Hawkesworth hired a bunch of Canucks fans to run his campaign.
Hard-core NDP strategists much more in tune with the vicious ideological climate of BC politics where even civic elections run on party slates.
Targeting Nenshi is curious though. He's not the only pro-airport tunnel candidate, not is he alone in contemplating alternative ENMAX solutions.
Anyway, the main guy's name is Neil Monckton, and he's all over Twitter relentlessly hammering away at Nenshi morning, noon and night with variants on the same central themes.
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People who go on those social networking sites are too self absorbed and apathetic to show up to vote.
Can't speak for anyone else, but in my case, the above statement is absolutely false.
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You also gotta wonder if he's orchestrating this to try and help his buddy McIver... city council types sticking together.
Ding ding ding! Hw has zero chance of winning the election, and he knows it. Anyone with eyes can see that he's just trying to pull votes away from Nenshi to help out one of the other candidates.
^This is getting too much into conspiracy theory territory for my tastes, but I would guess that it wouldn't be McIver, if it is true that Hawkesworth is trying to prop someone up.
^This is getting too much into conspiracy theory territory for my tastes, but I would guess that it wouldn't be McIver, if it is true that Hawkesworth is trying to prop someone up.
What other explanation is there? He clearly can't win the election as his support in recent polls is virtually non-existent, and besides, does he honestly believe that he's going to gain credibility by deliberately misrepresenting the positions of another candidate?
^This is getting too much into conspiracy theory territory for my tastes, but I would guess that it wouldn't be McIver, if it is true that Hawkesworth is trying to prop someone up.
Naw, it actually happens all the time. Remember the year Bronco won the first time and we found out there were back room deals (not specifically with him) in which candidates that knew they had no chance anymore were throwing their support behind other candidates to get favors or positions from city hall?
I forget all the specifics but I might be able to look it up. Might take some time though.
Well its actually a guy called Neil who is running the campaign for him. He is the controlling factor and is systematically destroying Bob Hawksworth's rep and if Bob knows whats going on then he is just as bad. 3% of the vote is not really worth being so vendictive over. Get a grip.
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First off... I live in Airdrie, so I could care less for the first time in my life about the underhandedness and jabs that come with the Calgary municipal election.
I just find it funny, knowing Mr. Hawkesorth on a personal level, that the people who seem to be throwing around the word 'liar' are the same people who have Nemshi campaign ads in their sigs.
I honostly don't know who said what as far as the candidates go. I've learned in the past that there are two discussions I hate having: religion and politics. Both involve a form of following, and a strong conviction to be right, when everyone else is wrong.
Maybe Mr Hawkesorth is doing what people are saying he's doing, and taking people down with him. The man I know is a stand up gentleman, who plays the game within the rules. I see nothing wrong with what he's doing within the rules of politics.
Maybe Mr Hawkesorth is doing what people are saying he's doing, and taking people down with him. The man I know is a stand up gentleman, who plays the game within the rules. I see nothing wrong with what he's doing within the rules of politics.
He isn't doing anything illegal, or against the rules.
He is simply putting a spin on the story that puts his opponent in a bad light. I wouldn't blame him for doing this, because every single politician in the history of the world has done it in one form or another to get elected.
The fact that he is gun ho in doing it, when he has zero chance of winning, is the part that baffles most of the posters in this thread.
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I think most of McIver's support is going to come from people that still have trouble programming their VCR's, while Nenshi's fan base can all organize a weekend getaway, plan dinner for the week, program their PVR's, listen to music AND get directions to their voting area in less than 10 minutes each all from their cell phones.
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First off... I live in Airdrie, so I could care less for the first time in my life about the underhandedness and jabs that come with the Calgary municipal election.
I just find it funny, knowing Mr. Hawkesorth on a personal level, that the people who seem to be throwing around the word 'liar' are the same people who have Nemshi campaign ads in their sigs.
I honostly don't know who said what as far as the candidates go. I've learned in the past that there are two discussions I hate having: religion and politics. Both involve a form of following, and a strong conviction to be right, when everyone else is wrong.
Maybe Mr Hawkesorth is doing what people are saying he's doing, and taking people down with him. The man I know is a stand up gentleman, who plays the game within the rules. I see nothing wrong with what he's doing within the rules of politics.
Well I did not know that any of the BOB HAWKSWORTH supporters had NENSHI sigs?? They are the ones calling out people. If anyone wants the correct information, including those who live outside Calgary, feel free to go to www.nenshi.ca and check the facts, not the fiction.
Bob was a good Alderman and should have ran for this again. He will be missed by his Ward.
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