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Old 09-14-2010, 09:42 AM   #21
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Memo to Lady Gaga: You are trying way too hard.
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Memo to Lady Gaga 2: Just go naked next time and offend not only PETA but the entire world!
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Is she?

http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/L...ist/51729.html

Lady Gaga is one of the most notables on the Forbes list, however. Gaga arrives on the list just over a year after making her international debut as an entertainer. She comes in at #4 with a reported $62 million in 2009.

Publicity = $$$
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http://www.limelife.com/blog-entry/L...ist/51729.html

Lady Gaga is one of the most notables on the Forbes list, however. Gaga arrives on the list just over a year after making her international debut as an entertainer. She comes in at #4 with a reported $62 million in 2009.
Her interview on Larry King a few months ago was friggin terrible. She was spouting faux-art nonsense.

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I think Lady Gaga is awesome. Took crappy pop tunes and turned them into performance art. The meat dress freaking owns. I bet the crew cooked it up and ate it afterwards.
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She's eccentric its part of her schtick, its worked pretty well for her so far.
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Sing songs about sex with vivid imagery? Check
Dress outrageously? Check
Sound like 50,000 other pop diva's? check
use blood effects wiring auto tune and 40 dancers to distract people from your lack of talent in concerts? Yup

Bypass your generic talent with imagery? Check

Yup, she's awesome
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Sing songs about sex with vivid imagery? Check
Dress outrageously? Check
Sound like 50,000 other pop diva's? check
use blood effects wiring auto tune and 40 dancers to distract people from your lack of talent in concerts? Yup

Bypass your generic talent with imagery? Check

Yup, she's awesome
You have to give her and/or her marketers credit though. Because she couldn't pass for the hot generic pop tart, they instead make her as weird as possible to try something a little. And judging by her Forbes ranking, I'd say they are doing a heck of a job.
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You have to give her and/or her marketers credit though. Because she couldn't pass for the hot generic pop tart, they instead make her as weird as possible to try something a little. And judging by her Forbes ranking, I'd say they are doing a heck of a job.
Sure but I don't judge my musical taste based around Marketing.

She's no different from some one like that woman lead singer from Berlin in the 80's, or the chick who wore the plastic see through bra. Or Del Bello and all of those also rans.

Eventually Lady Gaga's preteen to teen girl fans and furiously masterbating teenage male fans will grow up an move on to listen to actual talented musical talents and Lady Gaga will fade back to doing reunion tours in Podunk Iowa where she'll play her 5 most popular songs over and over again.

Then she will wake up as a 50 year old has been singing Poker face in small pubs for quarters.

But at least she'll be able to eat her dress.
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Sing songs about sex with vivid imagery? Check
Nothing new.

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Dress outrageously? Check
Nothing new.

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Yup, she's awesome
I'm not trying to defend this genre of music, but for whatever reason I have some kind of weird respect for someone who took a style I thought was tapped-out and drove it so far past the point of rediculousness it became dazzling.

Just out of curiosity, based on your listed criteria, what would be your favorite live show to go see?
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Sure but I don't judge my musical taste based around Marketing.

She's no different from some one like that woman lead singer from Berlin in the 80's, or the chick who wore the plastic see through bra. Or Del Bello and all of those also rans.

Eventually Lady Gaga's preteen to teen girl fans and furiously masterbating teenage male fans will grow up an move on to listen to actual talented musical talents and Lady Gaga will fade back to doing reunion tours in Podunk Iowa where she'll play her 5 most popular songs over and over again.

Then she will wake up as a 50 year old has been singing Poker face in small pubs for quarters.

But at least she'll be able to eat her dress.
You are somewhat unfair to Ms. Gaga. Unlike most pop-tarts, she is actually a musician, and writes her own songs. She has written a number of very catchy pop songs in a short period of time (not easy to do). Her biggest talent though is manipulating the media.
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Eventually Lady Gaga's preteen to teen girl fans and furiously masterbating teenage male fans will grow up an move on to listen to actual talented musical talents and Lady Gaga will fade back to doing reunion tours in Podunk Iowa where she'll play her 5 most popular songs over and over again.
She is actually talented. I still don't like her.
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Nothing new.



Nothing new.



Nothing new.



I'm not trying to defend this genre of music, but for whatever reason I have some kind of weird respect for someone who took a style I thought was tapped-out and drove it so far past the point of rediculousness it became dazzling.

Just out of curiosity, based on your listed criteria, what would be your favorite live show to go see?
Whats my favorite live show of all time or when I was a teen?

When I was a teen, it was probably ACDC, or Iron Maiden.

Now that I'm older, give me a smaller setting and Colin James or RIP Jeff Healy and I'm happy.
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You are somewhat unfair to Ms. Gaga. Unlike most pop-tarts, she is actually a musician, and writes her own songs. She has written a number of very catchy pop songs in a short period of time (not easy to do). Her biggest talent though is manipulating the media.
Sure she writes her music and songs, but thats not really a reflection of her being talented.

She's the Mayer Joe Quimby of the music scene, she knows which way the wind blows, figures out a formulatic approach and follows the wind.

But I wouldn't call her ground shakingly talented and her lyrics are ridiculous.
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Whats my favorite live show of all time or when I was a teen?

When I was a teen, it was probably ACDC, or Iron Maiden.

Now that I'm older, give me a smaller setting and Colin James or RIP Jeff Healy and I'm happy.
So how is that really any different. Its just metal instead of pop. No dancers I guess, but the rest is pot and kettle.

Colin James does some great stuff.

Have you heard Iron Maiden's new album 'The Final Frontier'? Its wicked.
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So how is that really any different. Its just metal instead of pop. No dancers I guess, but the rest is pot and kettle.

Colin James does some great stuff.

Have you heard Iron Maiden's new album 'The Final Frontier'? Its wicked.
Sure, except the musical talents and lasting power and the bands ability to change makes ACDC one of the great bands. That and the blended style that combines a strong blues root with metal. The rest of the stuff that they do at the concert is window dressing, but the talent shines through.

with Lady Gaga and the other crap from the pop side of the equation, the show and the dancing and the effects is suppossed to distract you from the actual talent of the performer.

And the New Iron Maiden album is unbelievable, and there's a band where the musicianship shines past the concert effects.
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Sure, except the musical talents and lasting power and the bands ability to change makes ACDC one of the great bands. That and the blended style that combines a strong blues root with metal. The rest of the stuff that they do at the concert is window dressing, but the talent shines through.

with Lady Gaga and the other crap from the pop side of the equation, the show and the dancing and the effects is suppossed to distract you from the actual talent of the performer.

And the New Iron Maiden album is unbelievable, and there's a band where the musicianship shines past the concert effects.
ACDC have the same drum beat in almost every song!

The thing with Lady Gaga is that she writes the songs, produces the songs, designs the live show, designs the costumes...so to me at least it doesn't come across as a manufactured whore-fest like Britney Spears and such. Its more like being sucked into her eff'd up imagination which is a combination of pop music, psycadellics, and that crazy circus from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

And I most definately agree about Iron Maiden. They have continued to make album after album exploring new territory and continuing to tour to play the new material to fans all over the world. I for one, think its cool that a bunch of doods who are in their 50's+ can still be so committed to composing and performing at such a high calibre.
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Sure, except the musical talents and lasting power and the bands ability to change makes ACDC one of the great bands.
They have? Everything I have ever heard from them sounds the same.
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