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Old 09-14-2010, 01:55 AM   #21
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I thought publically funded things were not actually employees, they just get funding in terms of grants. If they are direct employees then I would agree, but if they do not get all the other benefits that employees get then they should not be bound by the same things.

So a NSERC grant to a professor at a university (that may have many many other grants from other sources going) is being muzzled?
In this case the scientist is with the National Research Council (NRC), which is actually a government funded institute. Salaries are paid directly from the government, and in the old days, a lot of operational funding as well (although that has changed in recent years).

Researchers at Universities are typically the folks who hold NSERC grants, and you're right, often this isn't enough to sustain a research program so they'll apply for multiple grants. The media policies at most uni's is quite liberal, and to date I haven't heard of any professors being muzzled based on funding source.

The irony in this whole situation is that Nature is one of the most prestigious journals to be publishing in, and having work accepted there adds a great deal of credibility (within the scientific community) to the NRC's efforts. Suppressing these efforts, which will receive significant press abroad, is really counter-productive.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:32 AM   #22
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Don't let those white lab coats fool you. Scientists can be just as political as any other citizens of this great country. Just look south of the border to the damage the EPA has done. If the government wants to direct their own evironmental policies they have better control the microphone. These lab rats need to remember who supplies the cheese.
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:07 AM   #23
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I really am getting sick of these liberal elite 'scientists' using 'science' and big words to confuse and manipulate society. I have been eating butter with toast all my life, and guess what scientists! I am still alive!
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:44 AM   #24
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I wonder, is it a standard position for conservatives to have a problem with science?
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:54 AM   #25
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When did scientists become so whiny?
When the Pope locked up Galileo.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:38 AM   #26
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When the Pope locked up Galileo.
Get over it already....geez!
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