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Old 07-24-2010, 11:47 PM   #21
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Yeah, I'd heard all about the speaker scams, which apparently have been around for many many years... though I only heard about it last year.

The worst people tried to sell me was perfume and cologne in a grocery store parking lot some years ago. Brands I'd heard of, but for really cheap... but uh, I'd rather buy them in a store and know they're not counterfeit, thanks.
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:17 AM   #24
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This is horrible, one poor unsuspecting fellow who believed in his fellow man got scammed and all you can do is make jokes. This is wildly offensive. -Justanotherguy
I respond and then I get an infraction for being a troll. What do you get? An ataboy pat on the back. Oh well. Whatever. Go make some more rape jokes and or under age sex jokes or other offensive jokes. hahah.. that is so funny. Whatever.

I look forward to the silly responses. Better yet. Why don't you just put me on ignore. Please do that. Please for the love of god put me ignore. If you don't like that I get offended by rape/under age/calling people sluts jokes then put me on ignore.
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Old 07-25-2010, 01:37 AM   #25
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Is this even a scam?

The guy saw the merchandise, agreed to a price and got what he thought he was buying. Yeah he paid a hell of a lot more then he could have bought the same stuff for elsewhere but whose fault is that?

If you bought a tv at future shop for 300$ then walked across the mall and saw the same TV for 200$ at best buy would you tear back into future shop and call them scammers?(lets ignore the price match guarentees here). Everyone would think you're a moron if you did.

I'd say it's deceptive business practices for sure to suggest it has a much higher value, but to me doesn't achieve the criteria for being a scam. If you walk into a car dealership and pay 28,000 for a car that a guy walked out with the day before for only 25,000 because you didn't do your research and bargain hard enough does this mean the salesperson scammed you?

Especially in this day and age with the ability to research your purchases easily ahead of time, anyone whose greed blinds them has it coming and no one else to blame.
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Is this even a scam?
Yes of course it is. Was it his fault for falling for it? Yes.
I have 50 million in an inheritance coming to me but I need some cash to get the bank to process it. If you send me $2000 to unlock the money I promise to send you 10 million dollars. PM me for details.

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Old 07-25-2010, 07:41 AM   #27
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Old 07-25-2010, 08:03 AM   #28
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Yes of course it is. Was it his fault for falling for it? Yes.
I have 50 million in an inheritance coming to me but I need some cash to get the bank to process it. If you send me $2000 to unlock the money I promise to send you 10 million dollars. PM me for details.
That is a huge difference though...you don't actually plan to give away money, and it's theft pure and simple.

To me this isn't a scam, just poor judgment. If I try to sell you my house for $5 million and you decide to buy it there is no scam either. Just don't buy the house if you don't think it's worth it. People overpay for things all the time.
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That is a huge difference though...you don't actually plan to give away money, and it's theft pure and simple.

To me this isn't a scam, just poor judgment. If I try to sell you my house for $5 million and you decide to buy it there is no scam either. Just don't buy the house if you don't think it's worth it. People overpay for things all the time.
A difference only in scale. The buyer got something near worthless. The seller knew that the TV was not worth anywhere near 800 bucks let alone the 6900 on the box.

It was at a gas station. It's a scam. You know it, I know it. If you tried to sell your $300,000 home for 5 million at the local Petro Canada then yes its a scam. I wouldn't fall for someone palming off a "6900" dollar TV for 800 bucks and neither would you but obviously some people do. A scam is a scam. Yes it was his fault for falling for it and hopefully he has learned his lesson.

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A difference only in scale. The buyer got something near worthless. The seller knew that the TV was not worth anywhere near 800 bucks let alone the 6900 on the box.

It was at a gas station. It's a scam. You know it, I know it. If you tried to sell your $300,000 home for 5 million at the local Petro Canada then yes its a scam. I wouldn't fall for someone palming off a "6900" dollar TV for 800 bucks and neither would you but obviously some people do. A scam is a scam. Yes it was his fault for falling for it and hopefully he has learned his lesson.
The difference again though is that you are just taking the $2000 with nothing in return. The guy might overpay for the speakers or whatever, but he is getting what he decided to pay for. Do I think it's a good idea? No, I think it's a bad decision, but that doesn't mean it's a scam either. I work in securities and trust me people buy shares in companies all the time thinking that they are getting an amazing deal only to find out the shares are worthless 6 months later. It's not a scam though, it's people not knowing enough about what their buying plain and simple.
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Of course it's a scam. Lying about the actual value of a item is a scam. Making fake brochures, and a fake website, and lying about your product is a scam.

Making a profit off lying is a scam to me. Dwayne Klessel is also a scam artist IMO.
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My idiot ex-boyfriend got scammed with speakers.

The reason why he's my ex...he's an idiot.
He was smart enough to get you into bed though. Who is the real idiot in this story?
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:13 PM   #33
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JAG is clearly upset he was turned away at BPs...


I wonder if these scammers speak in as poor English as email scammers write?
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The difference again though is that you are just taking the $2000 with nothing in return. The guy might overpay for the speakers or whatever, but he is getting what he decided to pay for. Do I think it's a good idea? No, I think it's a bad decision, but that doesn't mean it's a scam either. I work in securities and trust me people buy shares in companies all the time thinking that they are getting an amazing deal only to find out the shares are worthless 6 months later. It's not a scam though, it's people not knowing enough about what their buying plain and simple.
What is the difference between getting nothing in return for your $2000 or if you get something worth $400 for $2400. You are still being screwed out of $2000 because you are making a bad decision.

If they didn't go through the efforts of making the value of the product appear to be far higher than it actually was, I would totally agree with you. Most of these scams involve fake price tags, brochures and sometimes even websites. The same way a "Nigerian Price" tries to convince you to 'purchase' something that isn't worth as much as they are claiming it is.
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:25 PM   #35
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Well I guess it's like saying how Monster Cables are scam. But in reality it's more of poor judgment and lack of knowledge by the customer base that allows them to mark up cables to unreasonable amounts.

If I decide to sell my car that's worth $500 dollars to some unsuspecting chap out there for $5000, well that's his fault for not researching and knowing what the market value is. There's a difference between scam and lack of knowledge as other posters have insinuated.

A scam is more of I'll mow your lawn for the next 3 years but you pay me up front of $5000 and me not ever showing up and stealing your money.
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:29 PM   #36
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IANAL, but I believe deliberately misrepresenting the value of a product is fraud. That would be the case in the OPs story.
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:06 PM   #37
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JAG is clearly upset he was turned away at BPs...


I wonder if these scammers speak in as poor English as email scammers write?
I have never gone to BPs in Edmonton in an attempt to have sex with underage girls. Is that what you are saying?
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Well I guess it's like saying how Monster Cables are scam. But in reality it's more of poor judgment and lack of knowledge by the customer base that allows them to mark up cables to unreasonable amounts.

If I decide to sell my car that's worth $500 dollars to some unsuspecting chap out there for $5000, well that's his fault for not researching and knowing what the market value is. There's a difference between scam and lack of knowledge as other posters have insinuated.

A scam is more of I'll mow your lawn for the next 3 years but you pay me up front of $5000 and me not ever showing up and stealing your money.
No, monster cable does not tell you that their cables are actually worth $500 a foot but they will sell it to you @ $50 a foot if you run to the nearest cash machine right now.
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Old 07-25-2010, 04:20 PM   #39
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Btw, what are the brand names of these tv's and speakers?
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I'm guessing Soni, Sansung and Tochiba.
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