Chuck Norris is Clint Eastwood if Chuck Norris had a pair.
Clint Eastwood doesn't need the whole wooo chang high Karate. If you piss him off, he either punches your face off, or shoots you with the biggest gun that he can find.
Chuck Norris needed Delta force. Clint Eastwood dragged a rag tag untested rookie laden Marine Force Recon Unit full of losers up a hill for no reason.
Chuck Norris has a beard. Clint Eastwood threatened to bend a Bartender over a table and pop his cherry because he liked rousting Marines.
Chuck Norris has been is some of the worst movies of all time. Clint Eastwood not only acted in great movies, but directed some of the finest films of our day. All while bench pressing 250 pounds for 8 hours straight.
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Heartbreak Ridge was on TV this weekend as well with Clint. While that movie isn't really all that great, he is still a frickin cool guy. Clink Eastwood is definitely one of the coolest.
However, he is not THE coolest.
That title goes to Steve McQueen, as mentioned before. The King of Cool.
Now, now. How can you say that about one of hte most quotable movies of all time? I think I can recite every line.
Now, now. How can you say that about one of hte most quotable movies of all time? I think I can recite every line.
For the most part, I loved Heartbreak Ridge because it had several really iconic lines, and Eastwood played a Marine Gunny to perfection.
Up until the whole actual invasion, it was a great theme of an old school marine trying to fit into the new marine corp image that the Marines put into place in the 70's.
I think the scene that made me laugh the most was the running theme where the marines decided to smoke past Eastwood and beat him to the stop point only to see Eastwood continuing on.
After the release of the movie the Marine corp who had been advising on the set withdrew their support over the Highway scene where he shot the wounded prisoner.
There were several really neat exchanges that I really liked though
Maj. Malcolm A. Powers: [Colonel gets out of car] Atten-shun! Major Malcom Powers, sir. Annapolis class of '71. Colonel Meyers: How are men doing, Major? Maj. Malcolm A. Powers: My men are ready to fight to the death to defend our country, sir. Colonel Meyers: Well, let's hope that won't be necessary.
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No John Wayne fans? I don't think you can compare the two, but both Eastwood and Wayne are tops for me
- well, and i would include Arnuld, but
Wayne and Eastwood are in the same class as believable tough guys.
Eastwood's "Go ahead, make my day" is probably a variation of Wayne's drawling, oft-repeated quip, "That'll be the day," from the 1956 classic, 'The Searchers.'
Stagecoach or the trilogy Fort Apache, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, Rio Grande or The Quiet Man, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance . . . . Wayne is right there.
You know who was a tough hombre in some old westerns? Henry Fonda. Not someone you'd think of immediately but My Darling Clementine and The Tin Star are great vehicles for him as a touch guy, among others.
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"asshat" may be too strong a term for Heston, But the guy could definitely NOT act ..... at all!, Not one bit. In fact, he was a horrible actor and gained accolades only because he was graded on a curve.
....And yes, I saw the ten commandments. Great film for it's era.. but again, Heston sucked!
Chuck Norris is Clint Eastwood if Chuck Norris had a pair.
Clint Eastwood doesn't need the whole wooo chang high Karate. If you piss him off, he either punches your face off, or shoots you with the biggest gun that he can find.
Chuck Norris needed Delta force. Clint Eastwood dragged a rag tag untested rookie laden Marine Force Recon Unit full of losers up a hill for no reason.
Chuck Norris has a beard. Clint Eastwood threatened to bend a Bartender over a table and pop his cherry because he liked rousting Marines.
Chuck Norris has been is some of the worst movies of all time. Clint Eastwood not only acted in great movies, but directed some of the finest films of our day. All while bench pressing 250 pounds for 8 hours straight.
"asshat" may be too strong a term for Heston, But the guy could definitely NOT act ..... at all!, Not one bit. In fact, he was a horrible actor and gained accolades only because he was graded on a curve.
....And yes, I saw the ten commandments. Great film for it's era.. but again, Heston sucked!
Well, when I called him an asshat I was referring more to his off-screen activities with the NRA. Holding the pro-gun rally in Columbine shortly after the shootings is the ultimate in asshatery, if you ask me.
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Well, when I called him an asshat I was referring more to his off-screen activities with the NRA. Holding the pro-gun rally in Columbine shortly after the shootings is the ultimate in asshatery, if you ask me.
Let me guess. Bowling for Columbine right.
In terms of the rally
and Michael Moores distortion of the truth.
The Denver event was not a demonstration relating to Columbine, but an annual meeting (see links below), whose place and date had been fixed years in advance.
t Denver, the NRA cancelled all events (normally several days of committee meetings, sporting events, dinners, and rallies) save the annual members' voting meeting -- that could not be cancelled because the state law governing nonprofits required that it be held. [No way to change location, since under NY law you have to give 10 days' advance notice of that to the members, there were upwards of 4,000,000 members -- and Columbine happened 11 days before the scheduled meeting.] As a newspaper reported:
In a letter to NRA members Wednesday, President Charlton Heston and the group's executive vice president, Wayne LaPierre, said all seminars, workshops, luncheons, exhibits by gun makers and other vendors, and festivities are canceled.
All that's left is a members' reception with Rep. J.C. Watts, R-Okla., and the annual meeting, set for 10 a.m. May 1 in the Colorado Convention Center.
Under its bylaws and New York state law, the NRA must hold an annual meeting.
The NRA convention April 30-May 2 was expected to draw 22,000 members and give the city a $17.9 million economic boost.
"But the tragedy in Littleton last Tuesday calls upon us to take steps, along with dozens of other planned public events, to modify our schedule to show our profound sympathy and respect for the families and communities in the Denver area in their time of great loss," Heston and LaPierre wrote.
Heston's "cold dead hands" speech, which leads off Moore's depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was his gesture of gratitude upon his being given a handmade musket, at that annual meeting.
Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely, and spliced them together. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a still or video footage for a few seconds.
First, right after the weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement, making it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech given a year later in North Carolina.
Moore then has an interlude -- a visual of a billboard and his narration. This is vital. He can't go directly to Heston's real Denver speech. If he did that, you might ask why Heston in mid-speech changed from a purple tie and lavender shirt to a white shirt and red tie, and the background draperies went from maroon to blue. Moore has to separate the two segments.
Moore's second edit (covered by splicing in a pan shot of the crowd) deletes Heston's announcement that NRA has in fact cancelled most of its meeting:
"As you know, we've cancelled the festivities, the fellowship we normally enjoy at our annual gatherings. This decision has perplexed a few and inconvenienced thousands. As your president, I apologize for that."
Moore then cuts to Heston noting that Denver's mayor asked NRA not to come, and shows Heston replying "I said to the Mayor: As Americans, we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land. Don't come here? We're already here!" as if in defiance.
Actually, Moore put an edit right in the middle of the first sentence, and another at its end! Heston really said (with reference his own WWII vet status) "I said to the mayor, well, my reply to the mayor is, I volunteered for the war they wanted me to attend when I was 18 years old. Since then, I've run small errands for my country, from Nigeria to Vietnam. I know many of you here in this room could say the same thing."
Moore cuts it after "I said to the Mayor" and attaches a sentence from the end of the next paragraph: "As Americans, we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land." He hides the deletion by cutting to footage of protestors and a photo of the Mayor before going back and showing Heston.
Moore has Heston then triumphantly announce "Don't come here? We're already here!" Actually, that sentence is clipped from a segment five paragraphs farther on in the speech. Again, Moore uses an editing trick to cover the doctoring, switching to a pan shot of the audience as Heston's (edited) voice continues.
What Heston said there was:
"NRA members are in city hall, Fort Carson, NORAD, the Air Force Academy and the Olympic Training Center. And yes, NRA members are surely among the police and fire and SWAT team heroes who risked their lives to rescue the students at Columbine. Don't come here? We're already here. This community is our home. Every community in America is our home. We are a 128-year-old fixture of mainstream America. The Second Amendment ethic of lawful, responsible firearm ownership spans the broadest cross section of American life imaginable.
So, we have the same right as all other citizens to be here. To help shoulder the grief and share our sorrow and to offer our respectful, reassured voice to the national discourse that has erupted around this tragedy."
"NRA members are, above all, Americans. That means that whatever our differences, we are respectful of one another and we stand united, especially in adversity."
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Can we all just agree they're both asshats and Lee Marvin would kick the crap out of both before having his breakfast? And his breakfast would have been whiskey and cigarettes.
^ Ahhh, Nope. Heston for sure, But not Clint. Lee Marvin would have a fractured Ulna and Radius after the first punch.... Cuz Clint's SO cool, He'd be wearing a 1/4" thick metal plate as a shirt!!
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