My condolences to Transplant and everybody else impacted by this. My family has lost a very important member due to drunk driving and there's a certain pain that never really goes away. It must be one of the most preventable ways to destroy a family, so if you do drive drunk from time to time please think of the irreparable harm you could do.
Happy to hear the other members of the accident will be ok.
Joking aside I agree. Just don't think its tough enough, and I also believe its going wayward with certain things. What if someone ELSE has your vehicle and they drink and drive? Why should you be responsible for that? Fine the person, and if its their vehicle, impound for 6 months.
Also, sorry for here about your loss Tranny. That kind of stuff happens WAY to often.
Joking aside I agree. Just don't think its tough enough, and I also believe its going wayward with certain things. What if someone ELSE has your vehicle and they drink and drive? Why should you be responsible for that? Fine the person, and if its their vehicle, impound for 6 months.
Also, sorry for here about your loss Tranny. That kind of stuff happens WAY to often.
Except at the end of the day you're responsible for your vehicle, epecially if your lending it out.
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I don't know why they just don't install devices in new cars that make it impossible to operate them while intoxicated. As the years pass, drinking and driving would fade away.
Sometimes I wonder if the so called leaders/law makers of our society really want to get rid of drinking and driving....rather than just make more rules, laws and money off of it.
I don't know why they just don't install devices in new cars that make it impossible to operate them while intoxicated. As the years pass, drinking and driving would fade away.
Sometimes I wonder if the so called leaders/law makers of our society really want to get rid of drinking and driving....rather than just make more rules, laws and money off of it.
Im convinced this is the case with the the government and their desire for people to "quit" smoking.
They offer programs, patches, pills etc. but if youre going to continue to smoke their going to make money off of it dammit. Its ridiculous.
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Im angry. At him, at what happened, at the reporting of it (there are some things that werent known this AM but i am waiting til confirmed).
I spent about 40 minutes with his 21 YO daughter this afternoon, who is in a complete state of shock..and really cant wrap her head around what occurred. I have to admit it didnt "hit" me until I got home after talking with her either. I HAVE to drive by that spot to get home....just not cool.
He too would be happy no one else was seriously injured and I know that as fact.
I know this will seem nerdy or goofy to some...but...
RIP Mike, I already miss you and mourn not being able to call and set up a golf time for Tuesday, I miss your stupid laugh that everyone who met you would remember, and i already miss the fact you will never see your most brilliant granddaughters (Cadence and Isabella) grow up.
Without a doubt I will miss your friendship the most...because you were really good at it. Although you made a terrible decision, I still stand by your side with pride. You made it easy to do so. Losing you makes me sad and hurts every fibre of my being...knowing you to begin with eradicates all the bad stuff and fills my heart with glee.
Drinking and driving never ends up well...and whatever in this thread is said about that is fine. Losing some one so close and who is such a wonderful person, regardless of the situation, stinks. Didnt know I could produce the amount of tears that I did today, but there they were. Theraputic and debilitating at the same time. Similar to the dichotomy of someone getting killed while responsible for their own demise. One of the oddest days of my life and its only 13 hours old.
/rantings of a mourning lunatic. (also somewhat theraputic in its own way)
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Im angry. At him, at what happened, at the reporting of it (there are some things that werent known this AM but i am waiting til confirmed).
I spent about 40 minutes with his 21 YO daughter this afternoon, who is in a complete state of shock..and really cant wrap her head around what occurred. I have to admit it didnt "hit" me until I got home after talking with her either. I HAVE to drive by that spot to get home....just not cool.
He too would be happy no one else was seriously injured and I know that as fact.
I know this will seem nerdy or goofy to some...but...
RIP Mike, I already miss you and mourn not being able to call and set up a golf time for Tuesday, I miss your stupid laugh that everyone who met you would remember, and i already miss the fact you will never see your most brilliant granddaughters (Cadence and Isabella) grow up.
Without a doubt I will miss your friendship the most...because you were really good at it. Although you made a terrible decision, I still stand by your side with pride. You made it easy to do so. Losing you makes me sad and hurts every fibre of my being...knowing you to begin with eradicates all the bad stuff and fills my heart with glee.
Drinking and driving never ends up well...and whatever in this thread is said about that is fine. Losing some one so close and who is such a wonderful person, regardless of the situation, stinks. Didnt know I could produce the amount of tears that I did today, but there they were. Theraputic and debilitating at the same time. Similar to the dichotomy of someone getting killed while responsible for their own demise. One of the oddest days of my life and its only 13 hours old.
/rantings of a mourning lunatic. (also somewhat theraputic in its own way)
/rantings of a mourning lunatic. (also somewhat theraputic in its own way)
It's good for you. Don't keep that stuff bottled up. There's no perfect way to deal with things like this.
Sorry for your loss - by the sound if you will be very supportive to his family, and they will appreciate that immensely. Just don't forget to take care of yourself too.
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Sorry to bump this thread as it really is self-serving on my part.
First off....we had the funeral earlier tonight and if anyone has ever attended a service where there is a full honor guard (17 years in the navy) that does the whole flag folding deal which is then presented to the family (his 21 YO daughter in this case), it is one of the most heart-wrenching yet fixating things I have ever seen.
Secondly, I found out what happened and again was reminded why media can be so irresponsible with the way they report things. Originally all that was said was that alcohol and speed were involved. Both are true...but not how one would assume. His blood alcohol level was .07...almost legally intoxicated, but in reality not though the aroma of booze was there when first responders arrived. The "speed" factor was not at all on his part though, as it turns out he was broadsided in a 76 Vette by a pickup truck that was full of firewood, and they estimate it weighed somewhere north of 5000 lbs. The truck was going a speed it had no way of slowing down in time. Estimates put his speed at less than 20MPH, but he hit some radiator fluid on the road and spun sideways. In total it was about about the worst timing possible and the result of it predictable.
Anyhow...this is not about that, this is my ventation (my own word) and celebratng knowing one of the most awesome men I have ever known.
Here he is, raise a drink to his life if you like, and use his death as a reminder of how quickly it can all be gone.
And yes...he was a massive Packers fan being from Wisconsin originally.
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Sorry to hear about your loss, Tranny. I trust both his family and yourself will remember him fondly, and in that fashion, keep him alive via your memories of him.
As far as the constitutionality of suspending a person's license for blowing .08, I am completely in favour of it. While it does straddle the line of innocent until proven guilty, driving is a not a right, and public safety is paramount.
Wow. So sorry, tranny.
he was broadsided in a 76 Vette by a pickup truck that was full of firewood, and they estimate it weighed somewhere north of 5000 lbs
I have a cousin who had to much to drink one night and rolled his truck. Ended up not dying although the doctors said he would, but he basically lost all his functions. 22 years old, IIRC...and he basically had to start over from scratch.
He has regained some of his abilities, but he is still 80% handicapped.
Everytime I see him I'm reminded by how much we have to lose when we drink & drive.
A reminder we all need. Especially this weekend.
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This weekend coming up is a big annual fishing trip myself and 10-15 other buddies go on in some remote lake up north. This is our 7th year in a row, and it consists of a lot of drinking, bonding and a little fishing. Every year we get a bit older and a bit wiser, and more responsible. I always wrestle over the idea of staying sober when I am driving the boat... I think this thread was a great read for me going into the weekend.
For that I say thank you.
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A good ad campaign. One that convinced my brother is when he saw a man get decapitated on crowchild trail. The man was ejected from his truck and hit a light pole. At the scene my brother could smell alcohol.
He doesn't talk about it much, but when he does he turns pale.
