03-18-2010, 11:29 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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One good option at the UC though is in the last semester, rather than sitting around in calgary and going to classes and writing papers, you have the option of spending it overseas teaching in a classroom and then working online with your professor.
China, Africa, Mexico, Korea were just some of the choices.
Provides a more practical and dynamic experience for that 4th semester rather than staying in calgary and discussing philosophy. But it's a pretty big commitment, but you get a lot out of it... 
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03-19-2010, 10:58 AM
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Draft Pick
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Conclusion - Not going to UofC!
Now maybe if Mount Royal made an education program...
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03-19-2010, 11:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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the fact of the matter is if you can teach, you'll be hired. seems to me that the MT grads who don't get hired are all the friggen whiners anyways. once you're in the profession you learn really quick that not only does it not matter where you went to school, but nobody cares. Most of the teachers at our school are MT grads. The reputation thing is really only something that people who are students in an education program discuss, not those in the profession or in administration, so don't listen to it and just go where you want.
Last edited by ricoFlame; 03-19-2010 at 11:09 AM.
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03-19-2010, 11:17 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Good Job U of C, way to keep those standards high!
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03-19-2010, 11:27 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricoFlame
once you're in the profession you learn really quick that not only does it not matter where you went to school, but nobody cares. Most of the teachers at our school are MT grads.
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It may not matter once you are in but it certainly matters when it comes to hiring.
Having talked to people who do hiring in Lethbridge, Calgary and Edmonton they certainly look at the schools people went to and take that into account when evaluating candidates.
At least they did ~2 years ago, I guess things could have changed in Calgary since then.
Last edited by moon; 03-19-2010 at 11:42 AM.
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03-19-2010, 11:36 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Stern Nation
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
It may not matter once you are in but it certainly matters when it comes to hiring.
Having talked to people who do hiring in Lethbridge, Calgary and Edmonton they certainly look at the schools people went to and take that into account when evaluating teachers.
At least they did ~2 years ago, I guess things could have changed in Calgary since then.
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when evaluating teachers? So you're talking about evaluation of 1st year teacher practice? I think it's odd they'd consider university when evaluating the in-class practices of a young teacher, considering how different every teacher is no matter what program they come from.
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03-19-2010, 11:39 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricoFlame
when evaluating teachers? So you're talking about evaluation of 1st year teacher practice? I think it's odd they'd consider university when evaluating the in-class practices of a young teacher, considering how different every teacher is no matter what program they come from.
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I think he meant prior to being hired.
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03-19-2010, 11:42 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricoFlame
when evaluating teachers? So you're talking about evaluation of 1st year teacher practice? I think it's odd they'd consider university when evaluating the in-class practices of a young teacher, considering how different every teacher is no matter what program they come from.
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I should have said when evaluating candidates not teachers.
When deciding who to hire between candidates where they went to school plays a very important role in who gets hired.
I agree with you that once in the system that where you went to school does not matter, but it certainly does matter when trying to get into the system in the first place.
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03-19-2010, 11:43 AM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
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other B.Ed.'s in Calgary
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Originally Posted by mc0709
Conclusion - Not going to UofC!
Now maybe if Mount Royal made an education program...
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Mont Royal will have an accredited education program as of this fall, I believe. If it's not fall this year, it will be soon. I know that MRU is moving in that direction.
Another crazy thought that you might want to look into is Ambrose University College in the SW. It's a Christian liberal arts college, but depending on the program and the classmates, the "Christian" content is quite minimal (i.e. might come up in class discussion). I believe they have a fully accredited education program starting up this fall. The guy who's running the program is quality people.
Like I said, it's a crazy thought, but it might be worth it to at least inquire into it. I have a BA in English from Ambrose and I've had a lot of success getting into top-level grad schools with that degree.
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03-19-2010, 01:08 PM
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I completed the MT program back in '99. There were things I liked and things I did not. However, I think most teachers would agree that the majority of the learning you do takes place AFTER you get your first position.
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03-19-2010, 01:29 PM
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Just curious, do you need some sort of teaching degree to be a teacher in Alberta? Would a B.A. be sufficient? What about other graduate degrees?
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03-19-2010, 01:47 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: calgary
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Originally Posted by moon
Having talked to people who do hiring in Lethbridge, Calgary and Edmonton they certainly look at the schools people went to and take that into account when evaluating candidates.
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From personal experience, I found that the reference letters coming from practical experiences in the classroom were the more important portion in terms of getting hired or not.
It speaks volumes if you can't provide a decent letter from at least three different reliable sources when leaving any program... especially teaching as it seems everyone knows everyone. Imagine if you had no references going into your interview, doesn't matter what school you went to. And if your references are glowing, it still won't matter what school you went to.
Maybe the school counts for something, but probably not as much as what acreddited teachers or administration think of your ability in the classroom.
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03-19-2010, 02:01 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Keep in mind that whatever Ed school you go to, there will always be complainers. That is because teaching is such an individual exercise and Ed schools (all of them, not just U of C) attempt to push their version of what '21st century learning' should look like. People tend to complain when they have fluff pushed down their throat by professors when have never spent an actual day teaching what they're preaching.
As people have said above, the practicum is where it's at. Getting a good field adviser is also key, but it's luck of the draw.
Finally, realize that no matter what kind of teacher you think you are upon graduation, those first few months of REAL teaching are an eye opener.
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