Apple bans screen shields and cases with sheilds from their stores.

[GoinAllTheWay]

Never used a screen protector either. Had a tough phone for 3 yrs and the screen was as good as the day I bought it save one minor scratch from the only time I dropped it. It was a slide phone so I couldn't really buy any body protector for it either. The body did take a bit of a beating though.

With the new phone I just bought (same manufacturer) I figured the screen should hold up as well as the first one but it's not a slide so now I was able to buy that rubber amrour type stuff.

[Russic]

Just had a very interesting experience at the UofC microstore regarding apple and their craziness. I was waiting for assistance but the only guy there was helping a lady find a desktop. He was pushing her on a 27" windows PC and in doing so bashing the Apple product line something fierce. In my opinion he was a little misleading to the lady (said the base imac is $200 more than it actually is and that it doesn't have a proper media player), but really in the end I don't care that much. From what I've heard of Windows 7 it's really quite cool and a more than capable OS.

It wasn't until I talked to him about a keyboard that I figured out why the anger. See usually the microstore is pretty pro-apple, so i was confused. I was looking for a wired keyboard with a number pad but they only had the model without a number pad. I asked when they were getting a new order in and he let loose with a tirade about how Apple won't let him sell their products in the store until they do a redesign so that they can display the Apple products better.

So basically what he needs to do is sell out all his Apple gear, and then sell out all his PC gear so he has room to maneuver his store for a redesign. Only after his store is approved will they ship him apple products.

I love Apple products but that's crazy. You can already tell they've made an enemy and this particular enemy is the one who is talking to every university student looking for a new computer. Seems like a real dumb-ass move.

[FanIn80]

Yeah that's pretty f'd up.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Russic

Just had a very interesting experience at the UofC microstore regarding apple and their craziness. I was waiting for assistance but the only guy there was helping a lady find a desktop. He was pushing her on a 27" windows PC and in doing so bashing the Apple product line something fierce. In my opinion he was a little misleading to the lady (said the base imac is $200 more than it actually is and that it doesn't have a proper media player), but really in the end I don't care that much. From what I've heard of Windows 7 it's really quite cool and a more than capable OS.

It wasn't until I talked to him about a keyboard that I figured out why the anger. See usually the microstore is pretty pro-apple, so i was confused. I was looking for a wired keyboard with a number pad but they only had the model without a number pad. I asked when they were getting a new order in and he let loose with a tirade about how Apple won't let him sell their products in the store until they do a redesign so that they can display the Apple products better.

So basically what he needs to do is sell out all his Apple gear, and then sell out all his PC gear so he has room to maneuver his store for a redesign. Only after his store is approved will they ship him apple products.

I love Apple products but that's crazy. You can already tell they've made an enemy and this particular enemy is the one who is talking to every university student looking for a new computer. Seems like a real dumb-ass move.

Guess this isn't shot at U of C then:

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Russic

Just had a very interesting experience at the UofC microstore regarding apple and their craziness. I was waiting for assistance but the only guy there was helping a lady find a desktop. He was pushing her on a 27" windows PC and in doing so bashing the Apple product line something fierce. In my opinion he was a little misleading to the lady (said the base imac is $200 more than it actually is and that it doesn't have a proper media player), but really in the end I don't care that much. From what I've heard of Windows 7 it's really quite cool and a more than capable OS.

It wasn't until I talked to him about a keyboard that I figured out why the anger. See usually the microstore is pretty pro-apple, so i was confused. I was looking for a wired keyboard with a number pad but they only had the model without a number pad. I asked when they were getting a new order in and he let loose with a tirade about how Apple won't let him sell their products in the store until they do a redesign so that they can display the Apple products better.

So basically what he needs to do is sell out all his Apple gear, and then sell out all his PC gear so he has room to maneuver his store for a redesign. Only after his store is approved will they ship him apple products.

I love Apple products but that's crazy. You can already tell they've made an enemy and this particular enemy is the one who is talking to every university student looking for a new computer. Seems like a real dumb-ass move.

From Apples perspective there is an Apple branded store very close by in Market Mall.

[Azure]

I love my screen protector.

Apple can go screw themselves. Ban consumer choice? Are you frickin' kidding me?

Just more proof that Apple is run by a bunch of Nazis. Nazis and morons.

[anyonebutedmonton]

It isn't apples job to sell something they don't want to sell...

They aren't banning the sale of all protective screens. They have absolutely every right to make the choice not to sell something for whatever reason they have. It's their store, they can sell whatever they want.

Can you imagine how ridiculous you would sound blasting a Petro-Can gas station for not selling something that you wanted to buy? Stupid Petro Nazi's and their not selling me that flavour of beaver buzz I love!

I don't get all the apple hate, they are just a company selling products just like every other company. They don't have some far-reaching responsibility to the public.

[burning_acid1]

I've had a screen protector on my iPhone (bestskinsever.com) since day 1 and haven't had any problems.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton

It isn't apples job to sell something they don't want to sell...

They aren't banning the sale of all protective screens. They have absolutely every right to make the choice not to sell something for whatever reason they have. It's their store, they can sell whatever they want.

Can you imagine how ridiculous you would sound blasting a Petro-Can gas station for not selling something that you wanted to buy? Stupid Petro Nazi's and their not selling me that flavour of beaver buzz I love!

I don't get all the apple hate, they are just a company selling products just like every other company. They don't have some far-reaching responsibility to the public.

The difference is it's Apple. People seem to think they are somehow different from other companies. The copyright argument is a good example of this. Companies threaten to take each other to court all the time for copyright infringement, but if Apple does it they're evil.

This story would be much more bothersome if they were trying to stop the sale of all screen protectors. You're completely right, it's their store and they are free to sell whatever they would like.

[KTrain]

Apple has reached a level of popularity and company size that they become the evil empire for some people. Microsoft experienced it in the 90's and on. I'm sure many of us made jokes/comments about Microsoft forcing certain programs on you with Windows. It's just the way things work. Everyone likes the underdog. While Apple may still be considered the underdog in regards to computers, they aren't with mobile phones.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton

It isn't apples job to sell something they don't want to sell...

They aren't banning the sale of all protective screens. They have absolutely every right to make the choice not to sell something for whatever reason they have. It's their store, they can sell whatever they want.

They can but imagine what it would be like if the grocery store you usually shop at decided to stop carrying bread. Sure they can choose what they want to sell but their decision would annoy you unless you don't buy bread there because you have to change your shopping habits.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

They can but imagine what it would be like if the grocery store you usually shop at decided to stop carrying bread. Sure they can choose what they want to sell but their decision would annoy you unless you don't buy bread there because you have to change your shopping habits.

What if grocery stores started using Apple brand conveyor belt separator sticks?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by anyonebutedmonton

It isn't apples job to sell something they don't want to sell...

They aren't banning the sale of all protective screens. They have absolutely every right to make the choice not to sell something for whatever reason they have. It's their store, they can sell whatever they want.

Can you imagine how ridiculous you would sound blasting a Petro-Can gas station for not selling something that you wanted to buy? Stupid Petro Nazi's and their not selling me that flavour of beaver buzz I love!

I don't get all the apple hate, they are just a company selling products just like every other company. They don't have some far-reaching responsibility to the public.

I realize it is their company, and their right to sell whatever they want. I support that completely.

But this is only part of a long line of Nazi like behavior by them. So excuse me if I tell them to go screw themselves. I am never buying another Apple product.

They can do whatever they want, but so can I. And that includes jailbreaking my iPod. Even if they want to make it illegal.

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by Azure

But this is only part of a long line of Nazi like behavior by them.

I hear this quite a bit. Could you explain what you mean? I'm serious. I just find it to be a very extreme analogy.

Is it the control they try to maintain over their brand and products?

[firebug]

Originally Posted by KTrain

I hear this quite a bit. Could you explain what you mean? I'm serious. I just find it to be a very extreme analogy.

Is it the control they try to maintain over their brand and products?

A little known fact is that every time a song is downloaded from iTunes Steve Jobs executes a jew.

~firebug

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by Azure

I realize it is their company, and their right to sell whatever they want. I support that completely.

But this is only part of a long line of Nazi like behavior by them. So excuse me if I tell them to go screw themselves. I am never buying another Apple product.

They can do whatever they want, but so can I. And that includes jailbreaking my iPod. Even if they want to make it illegal.

Now that's just ridiculous... To vow to never buy another product from a company because they choose to not carry a screen protector that is available all over the place. Get real.

You have every right to jailbreak your iPod, nothing is making it "illegal". But realize that they have every right to manufacture a product in a way that makes it difficult to jailbreak. It isn't as if they advertised it to be a device that is easily jailbroken and then all of a sudden changed their policy.

You bought an iPod knowing full well that Apple likes having their products locked down to a degree to promote stability. Yet you complain that you should be able to jailbreak it.

[photon]

Apple argues it is illegal under the DMCA. I don't think they've sued anyone for it, does that imply that Apple doesn't think they actually have a case?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02...eaking-illegal

But given the new copyright laws and international treaty coming down the pipe, it wouldn't surprise me if it did become illegal. It shouldn't be though.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by photon

Apple argues it is illegal under the DMCA. I don't think they've sued anyone for it, does that imply that Apple doesn't think they actually have a case?

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/02...eaking-illegal

But given the new copyright laws and international treaty coming down the pipe, it wouldn't surprise me if it did become illegal. It shouldn't be though.

There is a little more discussion about this recently, since the iPhone Developer Software License Agreement was revealed.

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03...-agreement-all

You will not, through use of the Apple Software, services or otherwise create any Application or other program that would disable, hack, or otherwise interfere with the Security Solution, or any security, digital signing, digital rights management, verification or authentication mechanisms implemented in or by the iPhone operating system software, iPod Touch operating system software, this Apple Software, any services or other Apple software or technology, or enable others to do so

There are also a few other issues the EFF raises:
- it is illegal to publically release these terms (The EFF got them via the Freedom of Information Act when NASA created an App)
- max penalties a developer can ever receive from Apple? $50
- Apple an remove your app at any time, reject your app for any reason, and it is not allowed to use anything other than the Apple App Store to distribute your app

Other gripes people have with Apple:

Apple won't license its DRM to any other hardware manufacturer so files encumbered with Apple DRM can only ever be played on Apple products (mobile products, I should qualify).

You can buy a version of an Apple OS but they claim it is illegal to install on non-apple hardware (i.e. Hackintosh).

Sure, you can get around any of these issues. That isn't hard. But the fact that these rules have been created to generate user lock in is monopolistic. That is where much of the "Apple is evil" sentiment is coming from.

In the EU Microsoft was forced to remove IE from versions of XP and Vista available there. Microsoft was also forced to open up their networking protocols to allow better interoperability with alternate OSes. Why isn't Apple being forced to measure up to the same standards?

The first computer I ever had a chance to play with was an Apple. I'm not anti-Apple. I'm anti-closed systems, I'm anti-arbitrary rules, and I'm anti-zealot. I'd love to try more Apple products, I just don't want to have what I can and can't buy or do be dictated by Apple.

[wooohooo]

Is that shot really from U of C? Holy smokes. Did Apple sponsor all you guys or something?

The Lecture rooms at UA are totally different. In fact, more people use the good ol' pencil and paper than laptops. Or if there are ever computers, there's a good mix of macs and pc's. Jeezus

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by wooohooo

Is that shot really from U of C? Holy smokes. Did Apple sponsor all you guys or something?

The one I posted? No, that's the University of Missouri.

Why they have so many Macs, I'm not sure...