02-18-2010, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by troutman
Anyone else think it is crazy that an individual medal counts the same as a team medal?
There is no way a skater in a 35 second event should have their medal count the same as a 20 person hockey team playing six 60 minute games to win a medal.
How should they account for that?
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Well how do they account for sports with multiple medals at different distances? Like swimming, speed skating, and skiing?
So for hockey you would get 20 extra medals for the count?
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02-18-2010, 10:04 AM
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Canada probably finishes in 4th overall with maybe 21 total. Just a guess.
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02-18-2010, 10:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Smell My Finger
Canada probably finishes in 4th overall with maybe 21 total. Just a guess.
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I'm going to say we finish 3rd overall with 26 medals. The short & long track medals will start piling up.
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02-18-2010, 03:13 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: YYC
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just ask any athlete, any event:
"would you go for a medal for your country at the least on the podium?" = "yes!"
"would you go for bronze if you are winning a silver?" = "no! i go for gold"
every single athlete will go for gold.
the standings 'north american way' gives a holistic view of the power of nations. because you cannot compare the sweetness of apples to oranges to pineapple to grapefruit. every country / athlete puts in money and effort differently. but it has a function to tell which country produces more results.
the standings 'european / asian way' always go for the tiebreaker in gold/silver/bronze/alphabetical order of country's name. i buy in that, because the ultimate goal is to win golds as many as you could!
embracing the 'number of medals standings' is somewhat giving you an excuse more. it's skewed.
of course, the point system is do-able. however, IOC has never come out to announce its take. but on their website, they go for gold/silver/bronze format.
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02-18-2010, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mahogany, aka halfway to Lethbridge
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While I agree that being Olympic Champion is the ultimate goal, I think that atheletes and their countries can be justifiably proud of being second or third best in the world.
I know I'm still proud of having the 5th fastest 400m freestyle swim for my age group in the City of Toronto when I was 11. Should I be proud of that, probably not, but I am because it took a lot of work to even get to that final and there were an awful lot of other kids in swim clubs that didn't make that meet, let alone the finals. I don't see celebrating silver or bronze as celebrating mediocrity, that's pretty damn close to the best in the world and I'm pretty happy with every medal. (Although gold sure is nice)
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03-01-2010, 02:50 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
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1st = 5 points
2nd = 3 points
3rd = 1 point
multi-athlete events = x2
Canada - 141
Germany - 133
United States - 126
Canada wins the Olympics by my made up medal count.
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03-01-2010, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Fire
I'm going to say we finish 3rd overall with 26 medals. The short & long track medals will start piling up.
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Winner.
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03-01-2010, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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^^^
Winner winner, chicken dinner!
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03-01-2010, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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If we count all the medals equally, why don't we just count each countries number of participants to decide who won?
I like the idea of counting the number of team members gold medals and adding that to the total. Real teams though, such as in volleyball, hockey, soccer, etc. After all each member wins a medal, so each should count.
Anybody want to do a little research and get this total?
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03-01-2010, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by troutman
You could award points beyond the top 3:
Gold = 30
Silver = 20
Bronze =10
4th = 5
5th = 4
6th = 3
7th = 2
8th = 1
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I would totally support such a system. It makes so much sense.
Going with total medals makes no sense at all. Silver says nice try but you didn't quite cut it, bronze says thanks for coming out. Gold says NICE JOB CHAMP!!!
But at the same time, you can't just go with number of golds. Saying 1 gold > 10 silvers, (or whatever) is also flawed. Also, finishing 4th is a cold, cold slap in the face in the current system. It should count for SOMETHING.
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03-02-2010, 06:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Simple it should be by gold if Canada has the most golds, it should be by total medals if Canada leads in total medals.
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03-02-2010, 07:14 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cambodia
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Counting each individual medal, here are the results:
Total Medals
United States - 98
Canada - 92
Germany - 54
Total Gold Medals
Canada - 69
Germany - 15
United States - 12
Total Silver Medals
United States - 66
Germany - 24
Canada - 15
Total Bronze Medals
United States - 20
Germany - 15
Canada - 8
Total Score (1st=3, 2nd=2, 3rd=1)
Canada - 245
United States - 188
Germany - 108
Total Score (1st=5, 2nd=3, 3rd=1)
Canada - 398
United States - 278
Germany - 162
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