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Old 02-15-2010, 06:34 PM   #21
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Perhaps the anger to being fenced out from the flame should be directed to those that are responsible for the fence being there in the first place.
If there wasn't such a very real chance of it getting vandalized by those so-called "protester" vandals, I'm sure VANOC would have happily had the flame far more accessible.
I can't believe people are actually blaming VANOC for putting up fences when there are hundreds of bottom-feeding idiots running about who no doubt would love any opportunity to destroy the most important symbol of the Olympics.
It sucks there are fences, but what sucks more is that there is even a need for a fence in the first place. They are protecting our flame, and should not be condemned for it.
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Perhaps the anger to being fenced out from the flame should be directed to those that are responsible for the fence being there in the first place.
If there wasn't such a very real chance of it getting vandalized by those so-called "protester" vandals, I'm sure VANOC would have happily had the flame far more accessible.
I can't believe people are actually blaming VANOC for putting up fences when there are hundreds of bottom-feeding idiots running about who no doubt would love any opportunity to destroy the most important symbol of the Olympics.
It sucks there are fences, but what sucks more is that there is even a need for a fence in the first place. They are protecting our flame, and should not be condemned for it.
exactly, it is not VANOC's fault there are a bunch of idiots who make it their goal to disrupt the games

it would be like blaming the airlines for making you go through security at the airport

blame the idiots who cause the need for extra protection, not those who provide the necessary protection
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:47 PM   #23
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You have to know if it was freely accessible some yahoo would put the flame out, cut the torch down, or otherwise destroy the thing.

It is sad but true. Just like Metallica said.
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Old 02-15-2010, 11:58 PM   #24
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If you're using a small camera, I'm sure you could take an unobstructed picture through one of the holes in the chain link. If not, buy a canoe and paddle around.
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:29 AM   #25
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Maybe they should have 10 of the 7,000 security people in Vancouver guard the torch!
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Old 02-16-2010, 01:38 AM   #26
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http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...ympic-cauldron

Looks like they are going to find a way to make it more accessible and picture friendly.

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Old 02-16-2010, 01:41 AM   #27
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I will admit the comunist references are a bit much, but the feeling you get when you walk through there is one of opression. Also I was feeling rather bitter this morning as my snow boarding tickets were canceled. Really the fenced in torch is beautiful irony.

The solution to the torch problem is rather simple though. If they would open up what appears to be a outdoor seating area just to the right of the torch site you would be able to get a close up view of the torch while Vanoc maintains their perimter.

Security in general at the olympics is a joke. Metal detectors everywhere so guns and knives can't get in venues but if someone really wanted to damage there is nothing stopping anyone form building a truck fertilizer bomb. Esentially all of the metal detectors are there for show and not for safety.

Minus these logistical issues the games are fantastic. The crowds at events are great, getting to events is easy, It is unfortunate that they got so many little details right but the lasting impressions will be these large symbols

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Old 02-16-2010, 01:46 AM   #28
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Personally I'd rather shoot through a fence than through glass. And I don't random people posing in my shot! Guess I better get there before they change it.
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They just don't want people finding out that the columns are actually just cardboard boxes wrapped in tinfoil
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Really?

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^^^ somehow that doesn't seem very surprising at all
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I will admit the comunist references are a bit much, but the feeling you get when you walk through there is one of opression. Also I was feeling rather bitter this morning as my snow boarding tickets were canceled. Really the fenced in torch is beautiful irony.

The solution to the torch problem is rather simple though. If they would open up what appears to be a outdoor seating area just to the right of the torch site you would be able to get a close up view of the torch while Vanoc maintains their perimter.

Security in general at the olympics is a joke. Metal detectors everywhere so guns and knives can't get in venues but if someone really wanted to damage there is nothing stopping anyone form building a truck fertilizer bomb. Esentially all of the metal detectors are there for show and not for safety.

Minus these logistical issues the games are fantastic. The crowds at events are great, getting to events is easy, It is unfortunate that they got so many little details right but the lasting impressions will be these large symbols
So it's exactly the same as 99% of the world? How exactly are you supposed to screen for truck fertilizer bombs? Checkpoint perimeters around the city? Sounds pretty communist to me.
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Old 02-16-2010, 09:13 AM   #33
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They should have some volunteers/security posted at the torch to escort groups of people in for pictures.
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/...g.html?ref=rss

A short article about the fenced-in cauldron with a great photo. Really short sighted of them to think people wouldn't want clear, unobstructed pictures of the Olympic flame.
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Looks like a temporary solution to the problem, good move.

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centr...ympic+cauldron

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Old 02-17-2010, 11:47 AM   #36
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I think even Nassau has a smaller fence for the space shuttle.
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I think even Nassau has a smaller fence for the space shuttle.
When did the shuttle ever land in the Bahamas?
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This torch excites the stoner in me.
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Why not protect it with Pleixglass or something you can see through but it hard to break or get over without some ugly chain link fence in 90% of the photos people take.

You would think that they only had a few weeks to prepare for these games.
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